iPad class action

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    I think it sounds fair to me. However I'm sure they are going to limit claims to people who purchased a 3G enabled device prior to the announcement of the data package pricing change.

    As they advertised the device to be easily switched from 250mb to unlimited month to month, no contract.
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    Yes, they seek to expand the class to all those who ordered the 3G model on or before the June 6th change date.
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    I was thinking about ordering 3G models, but changed my mind as I was buying 2 iPads, so went WiFi to keep the cost down.

    Maybe AT&T can join to sue themselves for the lost 3G revenue they might have had if I had bought?
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    1. Didnt ATT grandfather the unlimited plan for all purchases made before they announced the change?

    2. Class action suits are all about getting you a few dollars and the lawyers millions.
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    That is for the iPhone users, who can't flip-flop like the iPad was advertised for. If you kept your iPad on unlimited your probably fine, but if you turned it off or dropped to the lower 200-250mb, you prob can't go back to unlimited.....your stuck with 2G for 25$
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    I would join. Had ATT waited a year to do this - OK - I might understand. This looks a lot like bait and switch. I also think Apple knew about this as well - there's all kinds of business arrangements and contractual obligations between Apple and ATT.

    Even if they sent me a five dollar bill - I would feel good knowing that Apple had to pay a huge settlement because of this dishonesty.
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    Payment will probably be in the form of iTunes gift cards.
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    I echo DavidNM's sentiments.
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    Even though the iPad is such a revolutionary product - I continually try to remember that apple is just a business - and it run by BCA's (business criminal a$$holes).

    Just look at what's going on right now with the iPhone4 -- I've heard continual bad press every hour on the news - about dropping calls or diminished signal when the unit is picked up in your hand. I don't think there's anything that you can say that would convince me that they didn't discover this problem the first week of unit testing. Yet I'm sure they weighed the consequences and decided to deploy anyway. Typical BCA's - taking this level of risk with shareholders money. Bad decision - now they've tarnished their reputation which was priceless.
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    They prob had too much R&D into the phone to make any drastic changes at the point it was getting put into production.

    Kinda a coincidence that for the first time in iPhone history, Apple releases a 'bumper' case that would completely cover the antenna and reduce the drop call problem?

    [​IMG]
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    I would put most of the blame of this on ATT, though you can be sure Apple probably knew this was coming and advertised unlimited anyway. I would imagine ATT had come to them in advance about wanting to do away with unlimited data. Apple's response was probably something along the lines of "just wait until after the iPad release to cut it". They waited... like 5 weeks :D

    Yes, Apple is just as much "the man" as Microsoft ever was. Now that they are gaining market share, its becoming more difficult to pretend to be the innocent "little guy".
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    Apple hit both a grand slam and had a perfect game with the iPad. Then the Mac Mini as well as OS4. Look what their stock had been doing.

    Then to come out with the ATT thing and a turd of a phone back to back? What gets me is that Steve said "then don't pick it up that way" when addressing the call dropping issue.

    I heard someone on a business channel say something to the effect of 'so you've got to buy a $24.95 case to make the phone work?' This is equivalent to losing tens of millions of dollars in reputation. They would have been much better off if they gave everyone who bought an iPhone the case for free. It would have made them look like a stand up company.
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    You're completely right on this one. Will the sales of the phone drop as a result of the actions? Not by much, but there will be a public perception hit that will cost them down the road. That wasn't a smart thing to say on Job's behalf, nor is the answer intelligent. Usually he's smarter than this.
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    I don't see anyone getting out of the phone waiting lines either.

    Just give away the bumpers for free. I'm sure they cost .32c to make as it is....
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    Where I live Verizon is the only workable mobile service (quite rural). It had been a forgone conclusion that the minute Verizon offers an iPhone - Whamo - we'll buy at least two. Not now - I'll have to pause, read reviews, make sure things, have been fixed, etc. That's how this kind of thing effects a company - slowly and deliberately.
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    Not everyone will want the bumpers, going with a case instead. As far as it goes, there is nothing wrong with the design, it just affects a larger number than they anticipated, and it got more notice. Probably would have been better if they had orientated the antennae differently on the case.

    As for the lawsuit, it ticks me off when people get bent out of shape over not getting $50 for every one they spend. You bought an iPad, not a data plan. The data plan was what was offered by AT&T to help promote the iPad. When someone offers something like this for a sale price, it is not likely they are going to keep it forever. And with all the griping about how the phone companies cannot keep up with the demand for data services, are you really shocked that they could not afford to give it away? And then you get the lawyers involved. You know how a lawyer counts? "One for you, two for me. One for you, three for me. One for you, four for me." The money for them comes out of the future users of services. The company is not going to lose money, they are going to raise the price of services and cut back on upgrades. So you get an even worse deal in the future. The worse case scenario is that AT&T loses so much that they sell out. Do you think that is going to make things better? Verizon will get the iPad and iPhone, but with no real competition. So they do not have to keep prices down. And since they are on a different system, all of your iPads and iphones will no longer work. So you either are force to buy a Drone, or a new iPhone/iPad. Then maybe I will sue you for causing me to lose my service provider.
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    Not true! I live in a rural area so when I was deciding whether or not to buy a 3G what pushed me over the line was the fact that I could go with the minimum plan - or none at all. And then if I travel I can switch over to (or be reminded to switch over to) the unlimited plan. A month after taking delivery they change the plan. That is an unethical business practice - period. Go look at the Keynote announcement and how Steve was emphasizing the plans.
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    I liked the idea of the iPad and I bought the 3G version over WiFi BECAUSE OF the advertised unlimited, no-contract data plan. I'm not to blame for AT&T's inability to meet their promised level of service and, although I know that nothing lasts forever, ending the plan after a few weeks just doesn't pass the smell test.
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    (current Verizon customer)
    I was dying for a iPhone for the loooongest time, until the Droid phones popped up. And I could not be happier. The iPhone is just catching up with HD Video taking, and high resolution screens.

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