Big Business - game discussion

[MegFree]

Here I am, serving humanity once again.

To whom it may concern:

CHEESE vs COTTAGE CHEESE

Milk 260
Packaging 210

1) Cheese

Investment 2 milk (520) + production (310) = 830
Sold for 1,365

Profit 1365 - 830 = 435

Per hour 435 x 4 = 1,740

2) Cottage cheese

Investment 2milk (520) + package (210) + production (320) = 1,050
Sold for 1990

Profit 1990 - 1050 = 940

Per hour 940 x 2 = 1880

10-hr shift

Cheese 17,400
Cottage cheese 18,800

If you have several dairies the difference is even more significant.

CONCLUSION

Cottage cheese is more profitable. Also, producing cottage cheese is less stressful.
On a side note, I can't believe they fixed that double price glitch. What's wrong with these people?

EDIT

Profit is twice as much because I was Confused, they did not fix anything. I guess it was not a glitch after all.

So.... Profit is not 18,800, it is 37,600.

{Summerville; the head honcho - Elloriana, need hammers and drills}

Awesome. I knew cottage cheese was a way better deal than cheese because they give you double the amount in your warehouse. I'm definitely going to stick with cottage cheese over regular cheese. Thanks!

City: MegVille Player: MegFree1013 Level: 26 Need: Free Gifts that count for achievement: fountain & flowerbed

 

[jekstrom]

I took the cc advice and am producing 10 an hour. Thanks everyone. I still have 2 eggs to gift to the needy.

 

[SummerNight]

I agree 100% - the cottage cheese is a winner! The way you all calculate the profit, is in my humble opinion not quite right.
Let me clarify that one, by using the cheese example. Cheese is hardly worth the effort:
To produce a cheese, you need 2 milks - for some reason you calculate that as 260 - I disagree to that. You could actually sell them for 420 - why the cost for producing a cheese is: 2 milks at 420 = 840 + production costs at 310= 1.150. This you then sell for 1.365, giving you a profit of 215, for locking 1 regular truck and 3 milk trucks for 15 minutes.
1 milk costs 260 to produce, selling it at 420 gives a profit of 160 for locking 1 milk truck for 2 minutes.

The value add for making a cheese is simply not there.

Hope you see my point.

Profit is calculated by subtracting your investment cost from your selling price. Do you agree?
Milk is 260 to produce, 2 milks -- 520 to produce. 520 is taken from your bank, not 420 or 840. You are wrong. Your cheese production cost is estimated neither by selling price of your basic ingredients (420) nor your potential gains from selling basic ingredients (profit from selling milk alone, which is 420 - 260).

You spend 520+ 310 to produce one batch of cheese, not 840+310
You sell it for 1,365. The difference is your profit.

Cheese is not worth the effort, that much is true.

PS it is an interesting point about trucks but hardly practical in the game world. There is a cost of your building and upgrades. Think of how much you spent on, say, food plant before you start your production. It takes a long time before you start making actual profit, lol. You need to get your millions back first.
{Summerville; the head honcho - Elloriana, need hammers and drills}

 

[lavamad]

23 milkshakes done, (i had a bunch of bananas in my WH from days of collecting). I'm hoping i can place what do people think the chances of coconut flakes being the challenge tomorrow?

 

[GAB IV]

Life is not fair, how's your head today. Do you need glasses?

I found one pair, the safety ones. But still lost the Rx glasses that turn dark in the sun. Ergo losing sight of the ball in the sun, whilst bonking my head. Didn't you leave yet for vacation? Shhh. Don't tell summer but I just made the 666 achievement. And the 80% achievement at the same time. That added 27 credits to my loot making over 50. Is there a way to buy 7 eggs with 50 credits?. Anyone?

[ city name: Sprawlville level 50 player: GAB IV from western mass USA need free gifts ]

 

[lavamad]

I found one pair, the safety ones. But still lost the Rx glasses that turn dark in the sun. Ergo losing sight of the ball in the sun, whilst bonking my head. Didn't you leave yet for vacation? Shhh. Don't tell summer but I just made the 666 achievement. And the 80% achievement at the same time. That added 27 credits to my loot making over 50. Is there a way to buy 7 eggs with 50 credits?. Anyone?

[ city name: Sprawlville level 50 player: GAB IV from western mass USA need free gifts ]

It says you can get 5 for 40, and then if you had another 16 credits you can get two for that, but for 50 i don't think there is a way.

 

[GAB IV]

23 milkshakes done, (i had a bunch of bananas in my WH from days of collecting). I'm hoping i can place what do people think the chances of coconut flakes being the challenge tomorrow?

Oh! Saving coconuts. I'm coco for nuts. I had 4 banana in my WH. Running the minis now or micros. Those are the ones with shortest time that have potential to bring back bananas. Send some bananas to scooter she make beautiful muffins/cookies with them.

[ city name: Sprawlville level 50 player: GAB IV from western mass USA need free gifts ]

 

[GAB IV]

It says you can get 5 for 40, and then if you had another 16 credits you can get two for that, but for 50 i don't think there is a way.

Foiled again by sunshine. I had 54 credits but spent 2 to finish immediately. Working on that achievement to catchup with summer.

[ city name: Sprawlville level 50 player: GAB IV from western mass USA need free gifts ]

 

[lavamad]

Foiled again by sunshine. I had 54 credits but spent 2 to finish immediately. Working on that achievement to catchup with summer.

[ city name: Sprawlville level 50 player: GAB IV from western mass USA need free gifts ]

How many do you have now?

I'm trying to work on the decorations one, ingrate and no excesses. but i keep being distracted as I need to earn more money to get more entertainment buildings so that i can get more factories out of storage...

 

[GAB IV]

How many do you have now?

I'm trying to work on the decorations one, ingrate and no excesses. but i keep being distracted as I need to earn more money to get more entertainment buildings so that i can get more factories out of storage...

Psst, summer look the other way

Well my bell, not as many as you. You rank right there with the infamous mockba. I have 216. As for milkshakes I have 5

[ city name: Sprawlville level 50 player: GAB IV from western mass USA need free gifts ]

 

[scooteriggy2]

Good morning...
Gosh so much talk over cc or cheese. I say make what you can..sometimes you have to make cheese because your paper mill is making something else...i have to make starch and orange juice for my timed daily contests. So will make packaging in between.
I need bananas for those milkshakes and I used all mine on cookies yesterday...lol..but such yummy cookies they are.
I like the idea of trading items but not sure GI has the know how to to that..they can't fix what is wrong now in the game..we don't want to confuse them more..
I also keep my mine, oil refinery, and chemical plant running as much as possible. No need to produce extra products and you get at least 1,000 for first level production for every 10/15 min production time. Just set and collect.
Off to make my million today then will do a bunch of upgrades tonight I hope.
Have fun

 

[SummerNight]

Foiled again by sunshine. I had 54 credits but spent 2 to finish immediately. Working on that achievement to catchup with summer.

[ city name: Sprawlville level 50 player: GAB IV from western mass USA need free gifts ]

Hehe, the moment you believe you are about to pull ahead I will add more achievements and you will snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. That is my evil plan anyway.

Having thread and three fish today. I got paper and cotton in WH and fish is on the menu regardless. Short one was diamond dust. I got it a few days ago too and it won me a gold coin.
Not doing milkshakes. Yesterday my short assignment was 6 milkshakes. Ignored.

{Summerville; the head honcho - Elloriana, need hammers and drills}

 

[lavamad]

Psst, summer look the other way

Well my bell, not as many as you. You rank right there with the infamous mockba. I have 216. As for milkshakes I have 5

[ city name: Sprawlville level 50 player: GAB IV from western mass USA need free gifts ]

Only in acheivements, only in acheivements.

What can I say I spent nearly 2 hours commuting on trains 5 days a week, got to do something. Thats usually when i work on acheivements.

I have a number of things i think i need for the game though like a 4th warehouse, but that costs 1.5mil or rather 1.35mil as i have a 10% discount thing i am waiting to use on that, and im currently finding it hard to save up for that... i keep purchasing land and new buildings... ah well.

 

[lavamad]

Hehe, the moment you believe you are about to pull ahead I will add more achievements and you will snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. That is my evil plan anyway.

Having thread and three fish today. I got paper and cotton in WH and fish is on the menu regardless. Short one was diamond dust. I got it a few days ago too and it won me a gold coin.
Not doing milkshakes. Yesterday my short assignment was 6 milkshakes. Ignored.

{Summerville; the head honcho - Elloriana, need hammers and drills}

I've so far got 4 gold coins from the daily quests, but tbh i have no idea what makes you win one, as sometimes i have the products ready just as i accept the quest - complete coincidence, and i get a silver...

 

[Havingfun99]

Profit is calculated by subtracting your investment cost from your selling price. Do you agree?
Milk is 260 to produce, 2 milks -- 520 to produce. 520 is taken from your bank, not 420 or 840. You are wrong. Your cheese production cost is estimated neither by selling price of your basic ingredients (420) nor your potential gains from selling basic ingredients (profit from selling milk alone, which is 420 - 260).

You spend 520+ 310 to produce one batch of cheese, not 840+310
You sell it for 1,365. The difference is your profit.

Cheese is not worth the effort, that much is true.

PS it is an interesting point about trucks but hardly practical in the game world. There is a cost of your building and upgrades. Think of how much you spent on, say, food plant before you start your production. It takes a long time before you start making actual profit, lol. You need to get your millions back first.
{Summerville; the head honcho - Elloriana, need hammers and drills}

You are right so far - this is the profit for the entire chain. But, this is not what you dairy plant delivers. The profit you get from upgrading the milk to cheese is simply not worth it.
You show me just one serious economist who would agree with you here. You need to look at valueadd.