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Pdehoog said:
When you produce Cottage Cheese you get 2 items. Check your Diary Factory. It says 2 below the picture of the CC. A batch is one production which delivers 2 items.
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You are correct, I have never noticed it produced 2 items, so that does bring a new spin on this

260+ 260 + 210 +230 = 1050
1050 minus 3980 = 2930
2930 x 2 = 5860 per hour

Cottage cheese is higher then... Although cheese is still 2140 per hour not the 1740 that was mentioned above on original calculations.

Good call pdehoog!

(Big Business Game App - Player Name: Beaneys / City Name: kêl)
 
Havingfun99 said:
Sorry Kel, but you are very wrong. You have to look at the value, which is created at the factory you are looking at.
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No, you have to look at what it costs you to make each ingredient. You wouldn't have the value unless you sold it. And if you sold it you wouldn't have what's needed to go on to produce the other items.

It only costs you 260 to make milk do only 260 of your money is used.

(Big Business Game App - Player Name: Beaneys / City Name: kêl)
 
Regardless of the actual calculations, I think we can all agree that cottage cheese is a great way to earn a lot of money. I have three of those going at any one time, plus apple pie and tortilla. My money goes up very quickly with just these.

Question re: No Excesses achievement. I understand you need to destroy 500 decs, but do these include the ones you receive as gifts as well as the ones you buy?

Also, I placed in the contest yesterday and have an egg to give if anyone wants it?
 
Pdehoog said:
I agree with Kel on this one. You only look at the sales price when all production is done!
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Again, you are both wrong. By doing what you say, you are saying that the ranch is not creating any value - which is just outright wrong.

Let me illustrate it for you a bit differently then.
Imagine you have 1 ranch and 1 dairy. 1 regular truck and 3 milk trucks.
You put a milk truck at work, costs you 260. 2 minutes later you can sell it for 420. You put it at work again. Same story.
Now you have 2 milks for the cheese. What should you do?

You are confusing the overall bottomline with the value your business units creates - and basing decissions on that will lead to wrong decissions, if you want to create better bottomline.

What I am saying above is also backed up by the way international tendencies are going now - transfer pricing is a buzzword in taxation now.
 
You can also look at cookies.
As per your way of seeing it, a cookie will give you the profit of:

2 milks at 260
2 grains at 60
2 flour at 110
Productioncost at 170
Total costs 1.030 to be sold at 2.035 = a profit of 1.005

That would be a very bad way of seeing it.
2 milks at 420
2 flours at 450
Production cost at 170
Total costs 1.910 making you a profit of 125 for 1 hours work of 1 regular and 3 milk trucks. Hardly worth it, right?

Kel, as far as I remember, you said you worked at a bar, right?
Imagine this situation:
You sell beer there, and business is just bad, you loose money every day.
You win the lottery - and you buy the brewery you buy the beer from. Great business that brewery has going, makes a lot of money - however, does that make your bar profitable? Would you lower the price from the brewery to your bar to make profit in the bar, when you could sell it to someone else much higher?
Of course (or I should say, I hope) not (unless you were philantropic, and felt for the bar - but then it is no longer business for profit).
 
Sorry but your still wrong. Milk is only worth 420 if sold at end production.


To make 2 milk for 1 cheese it will only take 520 coins from you. If your balance goes down 840 every time your produce 2 milk then you should contact GI and tell them your experiencing a glitch!

My bank goes down 520 and then a further 310 when I put my milk to work to make my cheese.

Our profits don't take into consideration how many trucks or time or anything... The raw facts are that it only costs us 830 coins from our balance to produce the cheese.

(Big Business Game App - Player Name: Beaneys / City Name: kêl)
 
Current coin balance ( 14487)

I begin production of 2 milk

Coin balance goes to 13967 ( 520 reduction)

I collect my milk and balance remains the same ( 13967)

I make cheese and milk goes from warehouse to the dairy and my balance goes down from 13967 to 13657 ( 310 difference)

I collect cheese and balance still the same at 13657

I sell the cheese and my balance changed to 15022

I take 14487 ( original balance before any production) from my new balance of 15022 ( balance after production of all items)

15022-14487 = 535 ( PROFIT)

(Big Business Game App - Player Name: Beaneys / City Name: kêl)
 
Having fun and Kêl,

Fun is suggesting that with CC production you are throwing out the value added you earn. Ie lost sales. Fun is saying that lost added value to make cheese should factor In decreasing your CC profit.

Let's say the game allows players to sell items to anyone. To make the cc you would buy the milk at retail. Or you make it yourself.

Kel is suggesting for these comparisons you use the actual cost to produce so that in the end, the item profits can be compared.

So I see Ken point, and I also see Kêl's point. But I have to go with Kel on this. The goal here is to find the best profit per time.

The cheese stands alone, lol

And the CC stands alone. Because in the end, you are either selling cheese or CC. Which is better? Factoring truck use Only comes into play if you have a shortage of trucks and that's a different calculation.

BTW Kel I tried explains that the Cc gives 2 items a while back. I am sorry I did not make sure you understood that back then. My bad

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Besides mr Fun where is your avatar pic? Perhaps you could add the CC pic. Ms Kêl, adorable avatar.
 
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Ok that's not fair. My daily contest is to make fish. But I need the ranch to make milk for the milk shakes. Really?

[ city name: Sprawlville level 50 player: GAB IV from western mass USA need free gifts ]
 
GAB IV said:
Having fun and Kêl,

Fun is suggesting that with CC production you are throwing out the value added you earn. Ie lost sales. Fun is saying that lost added value to make cheese should factor In decreasing your CC profit.

Let's say the game allows players to sell items to anyone. To make the cc you would buy the milk at retail. Or you make it yourself.

Kel is suggesting for these comparisons you use the actual cost to produce so that in the end, the item profits can be compared.

So I see Ken point, and I also see Kêl's point. But I have to go with Kel on this. The goal here is to find the best profit per time.

The cheese stands alone, lol

And the CC stands alone. Because in the end, you are either selling cheese or CC. Which is better? Factoring truck use Only comes into play if you have a shortage of trucks and that's a different calculation.

BTW Kel I tried explains that the Cc gives 2 items a while back. I am sorry I did not make sure you understood that back then. My bad

[ city name: Sprawlville level 50 player: GAB IV from western mass USA need free gifts ]

Besides mr Fun where is your avatar pic? Perhaps you could add the CC pic. Ms Kêl, adorable avatar.
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I'm now making COttage cheese instead of normal cheese since I have been enlightened (again) ..

My daily contest is milkshake and bananas are not often kicked out of terminal.

(Big Business Game App - Player Name: Beaneys / City Name: kêl)
 
I'm going to jump in and agree with whoever said that the CC produces 5860 profit an hour, based on actual cost only.

I have if anyone is interested an excel spreadsheet (I was bored and interested in what makes the most moula) which calculates the actual profit after costs for nearly every product. THe ones that aren't on the sheet are ones which i don't have access to at the present moment.
 
GAB IV said:
Ok that's not fair. My daily contest is to make fish. But I need the ranch to make milk for the milk shakes. Really?

[ city name: Sprawlville level 50 player: GAB IV from western mass USA need free gifts ]
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Life is not fair, how's your head today. Do you need glasses?
 
mcbane said:
Based on what I've heard/seen, I would avoid the furniture and toy factories. Weaving factory and food plant are good because they use outputs from farms and ranches. The others involve other baseline factories and special trucks. If I had it to do over again, I wouldn't have bought any of the furniture stuff. You can keep a weaving factory producing belts every 10 minutes with one leather and two flax for 2170. Very easy to keep running, but it takes a lot of trucks (6).
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Thanks for the suggestions!

:-) City: MegVille Player: MegFree1013 Level: 26 Need: Free Gifts that count for achievement: fountain & flowerbed :-)
 
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