Math said: Why on Earth are you even on this forum? Your posts have been nothing but incendiary and trying to mix up trouble since you got here. There is a word for that: troll. --------- I'm not a troll loser, I asked a question you calling me A troll makes u look like a troll.. I don't knock apple, I have an iPad and love it, and even if windows came out with a tablet I will keep my iPad, even tho there are things I hate about apple, like it makes you install iTunes and u have to have a credit card to install iTunes, just so that will make it easier to buy apps and music, and movies thru iTunes.. I don't know of no other company that makes you input a credit card just so you can install the OS..and use ur product, even as greedy as MS IS, THEY NEVER make u input a credit card to use ur product..