Why is iPad 3 behind in specs?

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    It is not until i purchase the new ipad that i find*out that though it is perfect for my needs,*its far behind in specs.This is typical of Apple to be under spec'ed considering the Macbook Pro is underwelming in every hardware dimention. I was not expecting it to be the same for ipad. At the end of the day i am happy with the ipad on the weight of cons vs pros. I was under the impression that Apple will see a fall in sales and rep for thier lack in specs in both Macs and ipads. With quality andriod tablets coming out with real quadcore graphics and much more RAM, apple will have to up the game. Apple needs to stop charging such high prices for such a low spec'ed machine. For $500 i saw much justice in my ipad purchase, same for itouch. As for MAC, its very underwelming if you look deep under the hood compared to quality PC's of same price.

    what are the main future impressions of ipad 3? maybe better utilizing of the graphics engine because i see no real differ compared to the ipad 2 to make me jump my pants. my hopes to far up?
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    Far behind in what specs??????

    Dual core 1Ghz CPU.
    Quade Core GPU.
    1 GB of RAM.
    226 PPI screen.

    The reason Android tablets need 1.5 Ghz dual cores or quad core CPUs is so than can KEEP UP WITH the iPad. Android apps are running in the Dalvik VM which adds overhead. Plus their Java apps tend to be bloated with so many permissions that run in background it requires serious speed just to mask the issue from the end user.

    Yeah, if you think you got ripped off, please take the iPad back ASAP and get an Android tablet. I can't wait to hear how you are doing after six months with Android.

    The day Android switches to native applications like iOS is the day I will reconsider using Android after the debacle that was the Xoom and the next two generation of tablets.
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    What is unreal with the quadcore graphics on the iPad?

    And by the way there will always be other units beating Apple Devices on hardware specs.
    But the specs were never the main part why Apple was and will be successfull. It's also the operating system.
    Combine both and you know why the iPads are leading.
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    Well your impression that iPad sales will drop certainly have not happened yet, and especially given Apple's earnings report this week I do not see that happening anytime soon. Remember hardware is only one of the many things that make an efficient tablet. You can have a tablet that has alienware specs but if it does not have a great operating system it is all for not. All you need to do to prove this is take an iPhone and a high end android phone and turn them on. Right after they turn on enter a function that allows you to enter text and you will notice how an android will lag, even though it has a higher processor than the iPhone. As for ram, I see no reason why a tablet needs more than 1GB given what you use a tablet for unless you plan to somehow play a game like X Plane while at the same time listen to music and send emails as well.
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    Please just take your iPad 3 back now...hurry up. Get some Android that will have the specs you so greatly desire...and then next year it will have practically no resale value....while in the meantime it will be force closing on you. :)
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    Stinks of troll...
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    hmm.. all my blog stated was that i was hoping the ipad would have consolidated alot more punch inside its shell. Also, i am not stating a android vs ios. its more*spec vs spec in hardware. i was hoping the ipad was similar to the quadcores in the tablets but they are not. i am not taking my ipad back for the fact it does what i want it to do with out crashes. sorry if i was misleading.

    still have not answered*my questions
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    What were your particular questions because I addressed the points you made.
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    from my research, it says the ipad 2 trails the ipad 3 in graphics not far behind. considering the graphics are doubled on the ipad 3....i was wondering when developers where going to start utilizing its potential? if developors will even dish the funds to utilize all four cores. Kinda like how the ps3 is only using 3 cores of its 7 only because funding the development would be sky high

    Maybe i am confused. 2 cores of cpu and 4 core of gpu? or...2 cores if cpu and the other 2 used to control the more demanding retina screen? i was under the impression the gpu and cpu where one in the same sorta like the AMD A series.
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    You only asked two question. The first question makes no logical sense since the iPad (3rd Gen) is already here yet you asked about "future impressions". The second is impossible to answer because it is based on your opinion.

    Do you have any other questions that you believe we should have inferred from your opinion?
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    You stated that the iPad was inferior yet you don't know the difference between a CPU and GPU? And your first paragraph shows you don't understand the difference between pixels and graphics. I believe you have a lot more research ahead of you and I can see why your opinion is so misguided.
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    Skull, I meant future attentions in effort to utilize the potential gpu of the iPad 3. My words are ambiguous because I was typing fast on my new external keyboard in which I am taking back haha.
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    Skull, no one asked for your sarcasm bro.

    Let start over with a more literal question: What is Apples future goals in utilizing the potential of the new iPads GPU? I know the difference in the CPU and GPU. If they provide 4 cores to administer graphics, surely they will develope apps that will better use it's potential. Right now, compared the the iPad 2, they are not that far off in comparison. I assume developers will create games just for iPad 3 and leave the iPad 2 users hanging.
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    They are not the same. The CPU's of the 2 and 3 are pretty much the same, but the 3 doubles the processing power of the graphics (GPU) due to the quadcore graphics chip. I would think with the the resolution being what it is that most of this power is being used by the display. As far as developers making specific games for it only time will tell.
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    You say the ipad is behind in specs...yet, it has the highest resolution of any tablet and most PCs around...and there are games that use this resolution and the multiple cores in the GPU. In fact, iOS on the iPad has the best games anywhere, in terms of resolution...saying that the iPad 3 is behind on specs is just showing that you aren't keeping up on tech.
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    Currently the highest graphical game on the iPad has barley noticeable difference in graphics between iPad 2 and 3. Higher res does not technically mean its going to have better graphics. AQ_OC, your answer makes more sense. Thanks
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    Here are some game shots. The higher res does make a difference and the game play is smooth. I thought I had rotated these.....

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    I am sorry you can't tell the difference between sarcasm and factual statements. But, simply put, there was no sarcasm. I responded to what you typed, not what you intended. Mainly because I can't read your mind.

    Apple has no goal now. Their goal was to create the iPad (3rd Gen) and they have accomplished that. It is now the job of the developers to utilize the increased resolution and GPU that is now available. Apple also provided us developers with XCode 4.3 as well as the ability to add @2x to our graphic assets for iPad resources. This allows graphics to be at twice the resolution of the iPad (1st Gen) and 2.

    Developers CAN NOT produce applications for the iPad (3rd Gen) that will not work on the iPad 2. It is literally and technically impossible. Now what can happen is the frame rate of the same application can suffer on the iPad 2 compared to the iPad (3rd gen). But that would be very poor programming on the developers part. Mainly because he has to provide the @1x graphic assets which don't require a quad core GPU to display.

    Remember, the CPUs between the iPad 2 and iPad (3rd Gen) are identically. That means the code physically has to run at the same speed. The only increase in speed is the blitting of graphic assets to the drawing surface and 3D rendering of objects. Since the texture mapping is the single largest slow down, the developer simply has to provide the lower resolution assets to stay within the speed of the iPad 2.
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    ipadetheridge, this is not meant to be critical, but your comments indicate that you are ignorant of why the iPad and other Apple devices are so popular and highly valued. Apple is not in the game of trying to compete with numbers. Fastest processor, number of cores, etc. are all nonsense that mean very little. Very few people can get the maximum benefit out of a basic laptop today. The iPad was built with a goal as a user's device. Every bit of the unit was designed for just what it is doing for people. If they were to put a big processor into it, it would be like putting a Dodge Hemi in a Honda. Not very practical. The iPad sets a target of 10 hours of average use from the battery. That means the processor has to be very efficient. And the user experience has to be smooth. For all the big processors in the other tablets, they do not give the flowing, smooth action of the iPads. Apple is conservative in the components it uses. All tried and true parts that are thoroughly tested. It is the application and refinement of use that Apple excels at. That and extremely top-notch customer service.
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    Hey what game is that? I'm not a big gamer but that looks pretty cool.

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