Traveling with ipad

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    Just returned from a two week cruise to Norway starting from Rotterdam. Going through security was not a problem going,just told them I had a ipad in my carry-on in USA and Holland,returning was a different story with security at Detroit airport,told them about the ipad and it went through,then some eager AH made me take it out of the bag and made me go through again,telling me they had to check behind my case to see if I was hiding anything,I asked the guy what could I possibly hide behind the case that they could not find on the first screen check. He then asked me to empty everything from my pockets again,he even went through my bill-fold checking in-between the bills and credit cards and asking me did I have anything sharp in my bill-fold.I told him the only thing sharp was the edge of my credit card,that got me a rare look from the dummy and he then said "you are now clear"A real Dick Tracy showing off his power. As for my International 3G plan from AT&T it was a bust,as soon as I left Holland for Norway I had no signal and thats the way it was in every town I visited,the places were so barren, and no towers to be seen on the mountain tops, even the ships Wi-Fi was not much better, the laptop people were crying the blues because of no signal. So bottom line it cost me $14.95 for the the domestic plan (Which you must have before you can purchase the International Plan) which cost $24.95,so I paid $39.90 to carry a brick around with me.:D
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    We all get that when entering the US as aliens.
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    Having spent more than three decades

    as a federal agent flying all around the world and being sensitive to security issues, it never does any good to be a smart alleck to airport security folks. They do not handle that well and it will usually buy you a secondary search, sometimes even a personal interview on the other side of the airport.
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    I went into and returned from the US recently. Each time I asked if I should take out iPad and each time was told I should. I did and had no problems.
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    I am very supportive of all security and police at airports to include shipping ports but this guy went over the top with my bill-fold. I have been involved in top level security for over 30 years and never joke about it,I also make at least six airline trips a year but this is a first for checking inside my bill-fold and rifleing through the bills. I also have to be wanded everytime because of the steel in my legs,plus this time I went through the new machine they had,and I say again this guy was over the top for some reason. And in my humble opinion some of the people they hire in these jobs have no idea what you can use as a weapon,and yes even a sharp credit card.
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    not to be mean about this for i understand the need for securitry when flying and it seams that other countrys seam to do well in that area when dealing with public ..but there got to be a better way to screen people and hire smarter people to do the screening ..


    for i fly a lot for my work and have run into some of the dumbest people and some of the smartest people working there at the tsa and even the smart ones who work there say the same thing about some of the dumb ones when it comes to be able to have a little more common sense when dealing with things..

    i have a pin in my right and left ankles along with pins in my left leg from the military service and a few bumps in my life that came with the years of working in my life ..

    when i flew a couple of times after going through the metal detector .i have set off the unit before and i explain to them about the pins ..they will ran the handwand over me and it hit on the pins .. most time i can show them the ankle areas of the feet and that is enough for them to say ok and not do a body seach ..for most people go hey that ok and say have a nice flight ..

    i ran into a guy in the maimi area that had to be the village idiot for i had go with another guy and wait for the on duty medical guy to see of the scars and pins where real or not and i had to show them the leg with it surgery scars on it ..

    when the on duty medical personal came into the room and i showed him the leg.. for i had to guess what this guy was for he was the one asking me the questions about the leg and how it happen

    it went like this ..

    broken your leg in three places on left leg how did it happen .. it was from the military from a jump that went wrong in the middle of the night training drop that we where doing and you left and right ankle and foot areas how did those happen ..

    yes sir i was hit by a drunk driver in 99 ..

    did it hurt bad

    yes sir ..i can tell you when the weather is going to change

    he was smileing at that comment and said have a nice day

    yes sir..

    the other guy came back to the guy and was looking at the guy like you are a dumb---- and told me to have a nice flight and i was on my way ..for the other guy was there when i did the whole why did you want a full search of this person when you could see the scars running up the leg

    i ran into another guy comeing back from boston area for basically haveing two razor in my overnight carry on..i shave my head so i use a electric razor for that and a regular razor for the face.never could get that close shave with electric razor ..and the guy was asking my why the two razor when his boss came up looked at the two razor set up and told me i was free to go and explained to the young man that when you shave your head most guys use two diff razors and two diff types of shaveing cream for he was explaining to the guy that the head is a very sensitive area to shave and you use two diff shaveing products for the area..he was also a head shaver to ..

    we set for a min or two talking about the diff products that we have used in shaveing of the old head ..then we said our good byes and i left for the gate area to catch my flight home....

    i ran into one lady who worked at tsa and she was smart as a whip and was on the ball when flying through windy city.. she had me screen and looked over in less than 30 secs and was moveing on to the next person and she was catching all typles of things when comeing through the checkpoint ..she was on the ball and made the screening system look easly and fast ..

    i ran into on the way back through the windy city where i was changeing planes to come back home ..she had ask me about my meds in less than a 1 min time frame she had gone through my bag and was asking me about the meds and what i was takeing them for ..

    ran into a guy who could not understand some reason why i was keeping my diabetic meds with me at all times ..for i have to take the pill if my sugar level gets to high ..for i have the complete travel kit in my carrying on bag of the oral meds and checker and other medical supplies i need to keep myself from not getting sick when my sugar level spike after eating something ..for iam a border line diabetic if i can not control my sugar levels i will need to go on the shots as for now i can control with eating and walking a couple of hours a day ..

    he was like why the diff medical items in the bag when the other tsa agent asked me a simple question and was like you need to learn the something about diabetic people for they have to have there meds and gear with them ..

    the guy asked me where was my blood sugar level needs to be at all times ..i told 110 area for me i told him and he said what happens at the level of 300 and above ..i told you go into a coma and you could die .. he goes have a nice day and i was free to go ..

    the whole thing is there is a way to screen passage a lot better ..

    do like the U.S Marshell service does with con air .the passages are screen before they are getting on the plane and then moved in a safe way ..there is better ways to deal with the threat ..along with the personal should be held to a higher standard than they are held to now..

    or do like the Israel serucity personal do at the air port ..but the tsa needs to go for they are really agency that needs to hire better people or have a better training program than they have ..

    i seen better screneing at a federal courthouse than at the airport
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    I just came back from Mexico and never mentioned my Ipad at security and had no problem in either country.
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    I traveled with my iPad twice and didn't have any problems.
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    just come back from a couple of days in New York, no issues out or inbound
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    here is the problem after nine years the tsa has not grown into a professional agencylike it should have over the nine years it been in operation.. it still like a bunch of kids who has not reach it goals. yet.

    instead of hire just anyone ..they need to do like the other small federal agencys do and send the personal to FLETC in Ga area to do a basic classroom set up to get the training along with haveing a hard look at the hireing of the personal and screen out the bad ones from the good ones ..have a set of standards that they have to meet or they are gone..they must be held to a higher standard as other agencys out there when working with the security and safety of the american people ..

    along with hireing good people in the first place and getting rid of the numbnuts that they have hired for every good one they have hired it seam that they have four numbnuts personal ..to me that stupid when you should have a little bit of commen sense when it comes to dealing with the american public..

    i understand that diff entry points in the country and beening a total hard ---- on me when iam comeing back into the country after beening out of the country for i have watched some pretty stupid person think that they are going to be bringing drugs into the country and not get caught.. ..along with a basic fact of when buying your tickets now days there is a simple way to a quick check on the person after they have gotten there tickets...but that what they are at times when it comes out in the news paper when they are dealing with ..

    for some of this places that we fly in and out and they are beening a lot like dealing with little childern at times when traveling ..how many times did one airport fail it test it failed 20 times out of the 22 times that allowed a personal to get a bomb or a gun onto the plane. .. how many thefts have been done by tsa personal a lot ..how many times have the tsa been in the press in a good way not a lot ..a lot of bad press about the guys..how many kids are on the no fly list along with dead people and a v.p on the no fly list..come on there got to be a better way of doing the job of this numbnuts personal who work there..

    so it time to get rid of the agency or put a professional unit in place or hire a better class of private sucurity to work the airport sceening set up ..
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    Interesting stories! I need to remind my friends about that! :)
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    One of the airlines in Australia has signs at the check INS that say "We take jokes about security seriously."
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    This reminds me of an exercise I was on in the states a few years back, we had no idea when we were actually going to be coming back to the UK - but went through immigration, and handed over passport, military ID and NATO travel order (which along with military ID is good enough for military personnel to travel with in NATO member countries - the passport is just being polite)... So the guy behind the desk looks at it all, presumably only normally being used to tourists, and asks me what I'm in the country for.... Thinking the travel order and the military ID might have gave it away, but explained what I was going to be doing and what units I was going to be at; then asks me how long i'm staying for, to which I reply "for as long as I'm told to be - I don't know - that travel order is dated until *****, so that should be a pretty good indication". He then goes off about not having a return flight and a load of other crap.... I just said "don't worry - I don't want to stay!". I didn't realise it was possible to look so confused and offended at the same time :D
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    you where not flying into the new york airports area and if you where iam sorry ..:rolleyes:
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    Orlando actually (honestly.. It was for work!) - on a Saturday. Possibly one of the dumbest ideas ever... Especially as our boss was trying to get promoted so booked us all economy when we're entitled to fly premium economy. *grumble*. Hours on a plane with a bunch of kids excited about seeing Micky mouse. Great.

    They weren't too bad though.. Just a little slow perhaps! But they've got a job to do at the end of the day and I understand that; I just doubt that illegal immigration from the UK into the US is that much of a problem ;)
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    Henry2,you mentioned theft in one of your posts and it reminded me of the experience my son went through. He was in the military at the time being deployed to Iraq but was sent to California for a weeks special training before flying to Kuwait,he was in uniform wearing his dog tags,he took them off and put them in the small tray along with his watch,he went through the security door and walked to the end of the conveyor to pick up his small bag and the tray containing his dog tags and watch,surprise,surprise,there was no watch,my son said where is my watch,dumb looks from a couple of the TSA guys so he said he wanted to speak to the head of security,a few minutes later a guy in a suit came up to my son and asked what the trouble was,he told the man about the incident and was asked to make out a report which he did. The headman was very nice and told my son that had a few bad apples and they were trying to weed them out,my son told the man who he thought had picked up the watch but could not prove he had it. My son moved on without his watch but two hours later his wife back in St.Louis receives a pone call from security telling her that they had recovered the watch and was mailing it to her. The watch had been found in the Toilet and turned in,however my son had never been in that toilet,he thinks the TSA guy got cold feet and dumped the watch there in case he was searched.


    Al.
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    not the sidetrack post ..it has come up that the some of the tsa people had gone through people bags and stuff has come up missing ..

    in one report i read the person was missing a few items from there bag ..one of the bottle of very nice whiskey was missing after the bag was subect to search .when asked where was the whiskey the person was told there was no whiskey in the bag and never did find some the whiskey and along with cash and jewelry has been missing from people luggage
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    The main problem with having bag locks which have common keys available. I can understand the requirement for it, but seriously limits someones ability to secure their own property - which then raises other problems when you think about the whole "has anyone asked you to carry anything?" series of questions.... "nope, but you're about to take my bags away from me for the next 3 hours....".
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    Travelers are required to remove laptops from their cases and place them in a separate tote by itself. Why would you expect TSA to *not* require the same for your iPad? It's the same concept.

    TSOs (screeners) are *not* certified law enforcement officers. The are government employed (glorified) security guards. That's why they don't go to places like FLETC. They would need to spend five or six times as much to train and maintain them as LEOs, and the budget for that just isn't there.
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    that the problem after nine years your are telling me that have not gotten there s==== togerther and along with beening able to hire a better class of people than the local retards that they seam to hire ..the smart one move on and the dumbs one make the boss and they keep doing the the same mistakes over and over in there hireing programs..to me by weeding out the stupid ones in the job and keep the smart ones ..

    when it been proven time and time again that they have failed massives test on the security of the airport and how they screen passages for weapons and other things and your telling me that if you failed a test 20 times of 22 you should be able to keep your job and keep doing the job that is begins the safe flight for the people in the airport.. they need to start getting rid of the people who fail the test and us them as a the basic example to all others saying if you fail three test in a row you are gone and there is no if or anns about it ...so do not tell this socalled tsa works should not be held accountable for the mistakes that they make when it comes to there work ..if they fail three test in a row they are gone ..not 20 times of 22 and they are still working that b.s. ..they get a failing grade when it comes to how and why they need to bring in a private concracters or make the tsa work for it super..

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