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i know that it a not a computer

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the thing was i sitting thinking that i am going home and i will not have to deal with guy..

I had a similar experience over the weekend at a kid's birthday party and ended up talking with one of the other parents who was thinking of getting a new laptop. The conversation (inevitably) came around to the iPad, and she declared, "I've researched it and it's not a real computer, you know. It's just a glorified, oversized iPhone."

I asked her, "Have you actually had the chance to try it?"

Her: "Not yet. But it won't be able to do whatever I want."

Whereupon I whipped out my iPad (she didn't know I owned one) and asked her, "OK, so what exactly are you using your laptop for?"

So she begins listing out the usual same-old same-old - email, surfing, writing ("I'm writing a new collection of poetry"), presentations - all of which I demonstrated to her on my iPad. (Not the poetry writing literally, of course.)

At the end of which, "Oh, I think I'll wait for the next generation of iPad to come out next year. I heard that it's going to be more powerful."

At that point, I decided to cut my losses and leave her alone, rather than trying to find out what exactly she meant by "more powerful" or what passes for rational thought and logic that runs through her head. There are none so blind as those who refuse to see.
 
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my thing is when i have run into people who do not think it a form of a basic computing system that allows you do basic task and fuctions on the unit ..

in talking to someone one day i explained what i use my desktop to in the way of the following items

basic websurfing
buying products over the internet
reading and sending emails..
itunes for some applications and music and movies i like to see or what to watch ..
watching cable tv on the computer for i use a EyeTv 250 attched to the imac and have a incomeing cable tv box and dvr combo set up to record my shows i like and watch them when i get home from work along with a cable moderm set up also for surfing and watching the tv ..i have the 27.inchs sized screen for imac all in one set up
watching dvds i rent or own for personal pleasure

plus a few work assignments as i need to do them ..

so when i ask them what do they used there desktop or laptop for and how many times a day do they really use a computer beside emails and websurfing and most will tell you that it that all they use there computer for websurfing and emails and music downloading and burning of cd ..

so when i tell them that a ipad will do most of there basic computer needs in a small flat package they give you this look like your trying to sale me swamp land there buddy .. i just go ok and keep the rest of my thoughts to myself and go on about my business that i am doing ..
 
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Well - I'll guess someone needs to man up and say it...

I like Denny's. Those who mock are jealous! :p
 

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I'm curious what a real computer would be and what size floppies would the data be saved on.
 

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Sure as heck beats my first personal computer...the VIC 20!
 

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Sure as heck beats my first personal computer...the VIC 20!
Loved the Commodore machines, both the VIC20 and the C64. As I recall, at the time it was one of the best-selling brands of home computer, like 20+ million units sold.
 

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Compare the iPad to a desktop of 15 years ago. It would surprise most people as to the improvements to capabilities in hand held units. My last three laptop purchases together, cost less than my first desktop system. and they have larger screens.
 

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A Good Thread To Place This Article.

Whether these changes are good or bad depends in part on how we adapt to them. But, ready or not, here they come!

1. The Post Office. Get ready to imagine a world without the post office. They are so deeply in financial trouble that there is probably no way to sustain it long term. Email, Fed Ex, and UPS have just about wiped out the minimum revenue needed to keep the post office alive. Most of your mail every day is junk mail and bills..

2. The Check. Britain is already laying the groundwork to do away with checks by 2018. It costs the financial system billions of dollars a year to process checks. Plastic cards and online transactions will lead to the eventual demise of the check. This plays right into the death of the post office. If you never paid your bills by mail and never received them by mail, the post office would absolutely go out of business.

3. The Newspaper. The younger generation simply doesn't read the newspaper. They certainly don't subscribe to a daily delivered print edition. That may go the way of the milkman and the laundry man. As for reading the paper online, get ready to pay for it. The rise in mobile Internet devices and e-readers has caused all the newspaper and magazine publishers to form an alliance. They have met with Apple, Amazon, and the major cell phone companies to develop a model for paid subscription services.

4. The Book. You say you will never give up the physical book that you hold in your hand and turn the literal pages. I said the same thing about downloading music from iTunes. I wanted my hard copy CD. But I quickly changed my mind when I discovered that I could get albums for half the price without ever leaving home to get the latest music. The same thing will happen with books. You can browse a bookstore online and even read a preview chapter before you buy. And the price is less than half that of a real book. And think of the convenience! Once you start flicking your fingers on the screen instead of the book, you find that you are lost in the story, can't wait to see what happens next, and you forget that you're holding a gadget instead of a book.

5. The Land Line Telephone. Unless you have a large family and make a lot of local calls, you don't need it anymore. Most people keep it simply because they've always had it. But you are paying double charges for that extra service. All the cell phone companies will let you call customers using the same cell provider for no charge against your minutes.

6. Music. This is one of the saddest parts of the change story. The music industry is dying a slow death. Not just because of illegal downloading. It's the lack of innovative new music being given a chance to get to the people who would like to hear it. Greed and corruption is the problem.
The record labels and the radio conglomerates are simply self-destructing. Over 40% of the music purchased today is "catalog items," meaning traditional music that the public is familiar with. Older established artists. This is also true on the live concert circuit. To explore this fascinating and disturbing topic further, check out the book, "Appetite for Self-Destruction" by Steve Knopper, and the video documentary, "Before the Music Dies."

7. Television. Revenues to the networks are down dramatically. Not just because of the economy. People are watching TV and movies streamed from their computers. And they're playing games and doing lots of other things that take up the time that used to be spent watching TV. Prime time shows have degenerated down to lower than the lowest common denominator.
Cable rates are skyrocketing and commercials run about every 4 minutes and 30 seconds. I say good riddance to most of it. It's time for the cable companies to be put out of our misery.. Let the people choose what they want to watch online and through Netflix.

8. The "Things" That You Own. Many of the very possessions that we used to own are still in our lives, but we may not actually own them in the future. They may simply reside in "the cloud." Today your computer has a hard drive and you store your pictures, music, movies, and documents. Your software is on a CD or DVD, and you can always re-install it if need be. But all of that is changing. Apple, Microsoft, and Google are all finishing up their latest "cloud services." That means that when you turn on a computer, the Internet will be built into the operating system. So, Windows, Google, and the Mac OS will be tied straight into the Internet. If you click an icon, it will open something in the Internet cloud. If you save something, it will be saved to the cloud. And you may pay a monthly subscription fee to the cloud provider.
In this virtual world, you can access your music or your books, or your whatever from any laptop or handheld device. That's the good news. But, will you actually own any of this "stuff" or will it all be able to disappear at any moment in a big "Poof?" Will most of the things in our lives be disposable and whimsical? It makes you want to run to the closet and pull out that photo album, grab a book from the shelf, or open up a CD case and pull out the insert.

9. Privacy. If there ever was a concept that we can look back on nostalgically, it would be privacy. That's gone. It's been gone for a long time anyway. Try Google search on your name and see how much information is available‚ you will be appalled. There are cameras on the street, in most of the buildings, and even built into your computer and cell phone. But you can be sure that 24/7, "They" know who you are and where you are, right down to the GPS coordinates, and the Google Street View. If you buy something, your habit is put into a zillion profiles, and your ads will change to reflect those habits. And "They" will try to get you to buy something else. Again and again.

All we will have that can't be changed are Memories.
 

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And the hurt wasn't over once you bought the 5000! If you wanted to buy 3.5" HD diskettes, they were $70.00 for a box of 10 - and they were only available by special order!

Here is a screen shot from the 1990 Radio Shack catalog --

radioshack2.jpg


I moonlighted at RS in 1990 and bought a used Tandy 4000 computer that ran on a 386SX 16 MHz processor. It was originally one of the store's point of sale computers and they were "giving them away" because the stores were upgrading to 486 computers. They were selling the 4000 for half of the original price and being an employee, I got another 15% off of that. I think I paid over $2000 for that PC and I thought I had gotten a real bargain!

For those of you who want to go on a real nostalgia trip, here are copies of most of their catalogs from 1939-2003 --

Radio Shack Catalogs
 

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I have had my iPad for almost 6 months now, can't imagine being without it, there are some apps that I use continuously, every day. This new type of device is NEVER going to go away, it will just continue to improve. It's purpose is not to supplant the desk top computer; it is A something else that can only be explained by using it.

The best way to convert someone is to show them that one app out of thousands on the app store that they cannot live without.
 
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A Good Thread To Place This Article.

Whether these changes are good or bad depends in part on how we adapt tothem. But, ready or not, here they come!

1. The Post Office. Get ready to imagine a world without the post office.They are so deeply in financial trouble that there is probably no way tosustain it long term. Email, Fed Ex, and UPS have just about wiped out the minimum revenue needed to keep the post office alive. Most of your mail every day is junk mail and bills..

2. The Check. Britain is already laying the groundwork to do away with checks by 2018. It costs the financial system billions of dollars a year to process checks. Plastic cards and online transactions will lead to the eventual demise of the check. This plays right into the death of thepost office. If you never paid your bills by mail and never received them by mail, the post office would absolutely go out of business.

3. The Newspaper. The younger generation simply doesn't read the newspaper. They certainly don't subscribe to a daily delivered print edition. That may go the way of the milkman and the laundry man. As for reading the paper online, get ready to pay for it. The rise in mobile Internet devices and e-readers has caused all the newspaper and magazine publishers to form an alliance. They have met with Apple, Amazon, and the major cell phone companies to develop a model for paid subscription services.

4. The Book. You say you will never give up the physical book that you hold in your hand and turn the literal pages. I said the same thing about downloading music from iTunes. I wanted my hard copy CD. But I quickly changed my mind when I discovered that I could get albums for half the price without ever leaving home to get the latest music. The same thing will happen with books. You can browse a bookstore online and even read a preview chapter before you buy. And the price is less than half that of a real book. And think of the convenience! Once you start flicking your fingers on the screen instead of the book, you find that you are lost in the story, can't wait to see what happens next, and you forget that you're holding a gadget instead of a book.

5. The Land Line Telephone. Unless you have a large family and make a lot of local calls, you don't need it anymore. Most people keep it simply because they've always had it. But you are paying double charges for that extra service. All the cell phone companies will let you call customers using the same cell provider for no charge against your minutes.

6. Music. This is one of the saddest parts of the change story. Themusic industry is dying a slow death. Not just because of illegal downloading.It's the lack of innovative new music being given a chance to get to thepeople who would like to hear it. Greed and corruption is the problem.
The record labels and the radio conglomerates are simply self-destructing. Over 40% of the music purchased today is "catalog items," meaning traditional music that the public is familiar with. Older established artists. This is also true on the live concert circuit. To explore this fascinating and disturbing topic further, check out the book, "Appetite for Self-Destruction" by Steve Knopper, and the video documentary, "Before the Music Dies."

7. Television. Revenues to the networks are down dramatically. Not just because of the economy. People are watching TV and movies streamed from their computers. And they're playing games and doing lots of other things that take up the time that used to be spent watching TV. Prime time shows have degenerated down to lower than the lowest common denominator.
Cable rates are skyrocketing and commercials run about every 4 minutes and 30 seconds. I say good riddance to most of it. It's time for the cable companies to be put out of our misery.. Let the people choose what they want to watch online and through Netflix.

8. The "Things" That You Own. Many of the very possessions that we used to own are still in our lives, but we may not actually own them in the future. They may simply reside in "the cloud." Today your computer has a hard drive and you store your pictures, music, movies, and documents. Your software is on a CD or DVD, and you can always re-install it if need be. But all of that is changing. Apple, Microsoft, and Google are all finishing up their latest "cloud services." That means that when you turn on a computer, the Internet will be built into the operating system. So, Windows, Google, and the Mac OS will be tied straight into the Internet. If you click an icon, it will open something in the Internet cloud. If you save something, it will be savedto the cloud. And you may pay a monthly subscription fee to the cloudprovider.
In this virtual world, you can access your music or your books, or yourwhatever from any laptop or handheld device. That's the good news. But, will you actually own any of this "stuff" or will it all be able to disappear at any moment in a big "Poof?" Will most of the things in our lives be disposable and whimsical? It makes you want to run to the closet and pull out that photo album, grab a book from the shelf, or open up a CD case and pull out the insert.

9. Privacy. If there ever was a concept that we can look back onnostalgically, it would be privacy. That's gone. It's been gone for along time anyway. Try Google search on your name and see how much information is available‚ you will be appalled.There are cameras on the street, in most of the buildings, and even built into your computer and cell phone. But you can be sure that 24/7, "They" know who you are and where you are, right down to the GPS coordinates, and the Google Street View. If you buy something, your habit is put into a zillion profiles, and your ads will change to reflect those habits. And "They" will try to get you to buy something else. Again and again.

All we will have that can't be changed are Memories.

i have to go with you this one about some of the things here..

on n6 the music people have shot themselfs in the heart over the whole thing with napester back when some of the socalled bands where not makeing money off the music that was beening traded across the website..

the whole thing with napester it was to introduce the band to a new set of people and when some of the bands where saying where not makeing money on the whole thing it was like you just shot yourself over a something that would have bought more money into the band pocket by adding new people to come see you when you playing in the area that the person lived in..

n5 everyone now use there cell phone as there person phone service now days for me a land line is useless when iam away from the house for a couple of weeks at a time..plus now days you can a get cheaper cell phone that can do everything you need to do as a personal and business phone set up

n2 i do everything with direct deposit with a single debt card to handle the items i need to buy at the time along with haveing a running total in the account at all times..

n4 i still enjoy the pure pleasure of holding a book in my hand and reading it ..so i will still by paperback novels to read when the authers i like put out a new book..

n1 the post office i really use for most the items i get now days comes from online shopping like amazon and other online websites to get items and it shipped ups or fedex etc etc..i have a house mailbox unit and i go down about one a week to clean it out or i have something comeing in the mail that when i will keep a eye on it ..

n9 i have to say your right on the spot with that one for adds now come saight to your email account for things that you shop for personal use or gifts to someone that you know..

n7 i have a cable box for basic tv and internet connection for useing my desktop as the main source of my personal tv watching and internet web viewing..

plus i wish that the cable tv companys would let me set up a channel lineup that i would watch not by adding a bunch of channels i would not care for ..i do not watch shopping tv or the kids cartoon channel or spanish channels that i have in the package for the tv i have ..

for i would like to have the following channels line as a personal channel set up

the local channels
cw
cbs
abc
nbc
fox
ion
pbs

history channel
history international
militarty channel
nat geo channel
outdoor hunting and fishing channel
hbo
cinmax
showtime
starz
encore
fx
a&e
tnt
news channels line up
spike
tbs
syfy
tlc
travel
wgn
sci
dsc
comedy central
bravo

for this are really the only channels i do watch on a regular time frame of the diff shows i like and dvr them to watch at a later time when i get home from work ..

if i could get that as a cable tv package i would be happy as heck and pay a rate of let say $.40.oo dollars a month plus cable internet package of $.45.oo for highspeed internet ..i would be pretty happy with the that set up of a package,,
 
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