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Should Apple reconsider 7 inch?

Discussion in 'iPad General Discussions' started by Alanfujii, Dec 4, 2010.

  1. Alanfujii
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    First, I want to say that I agree with Steve Jobs that the 7 inch is too small to have the same user experience as the current iPad.
    That being said I am looking at Samsung's claims of selling 1,000,000 Tabs already. In trying to analyze the buy decision of their customers, I have to say it must be based on the portability more than anything else. It can't be a value decision based on the current prices. It hard to think that they feel the performance and usability is better than the iPad unless they are so caught up with their Android phones. So, with the size being that strong of a decision factor wouldn't Apple be smart to just come out a with a IPad mini? They already probably have the design done so it would be just a matter of tooling up. This could also be the low price unit that is sold with less profit allowing Apple to retain their high profit on their " flagship" iPad. The key is they would throw a major wrench into the tablet market with the goal of delaying the competition from building up momentum. With the decent success of the Tab you already have Acer who was ready last year of staying out of the tablet market reverse their decision and plans to come in this coming year. I know it's early and with new tablet coming out the competition will probably canobolize themselves but if this many are sold they can build on that.
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    How does Apple stop the momentum? Getting a new product in the pipe would take a minimum of 6 months, assuming they have a design already waiting. That gives the already selling, and announced Androids quite a lead time.

    A seven inch iPad would harm primary iPad sales more than Android sales.

    Doing bargain priced products at lower margins is not in Apples DNA. That would kill their current market plan and drop market prices like a rock.

    Jobs would rather kill a product than admit he's wrong. He has proven that many times before.
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    Interview - 2003

    You'll have your 7 inch tablet in seven years. :D
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    Nope but a carbon fibre iPad 2 sounds cool.
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    I think the current iPad screen size in landscape mode is the minimum needed to browse a regulare web site (not a mobile version) and I wouldn't consider a 7inch version.
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    Nope, no interest at all. I have had small tablets before, nokia, and its not sensible.

    If anything I would rather a 11-12" proper wide screen version
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    All manufacturers of smart phone, are making bigger and bigger screens - for a reason.
    I'd like to have iPAD 2 to be lighter and bigger ( 10 " maybe)
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    7" is neither fish nor fowl, nor good red meat. IMO the iPhone and iPad cover the whole market, so why steal sales with something in between?
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    I really think they should stick with 10 inch. I'm happy for the android crowd, but I want my user experience to be perfectly polished.
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    I'm sure Apple tested a variety of sizes before settling for the current one, judging them on a wide range of criteria from portability, battery life, readability, usability and longevity etc..
    Also being a software firm they would be also preoccupied with the potential of the device and constraining the size to one where touch control is fiddly would be a limiting factor.
    Personally I think they made the right decisions regarding size.

    "Jobs would rather kill a product than admit he's wrong. He has proven that many times before."
    wow..............you're not paranoid they really are watching you :)
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    I think the current size is the sweet spot for tablets, but I think a 7 inch and a 12 inch would also sell. I say give people what they want. Let them choose.
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    No No and No. After using the 7" tab for a few weeks it wasnt a very good experience. I found myself always having to use pinch to zoom on webpages, not a problem on the ipad. I felt like I was always wanting more with the tab. More screensize, more room to play games, more room to read my documents etc.
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    If you see the ipad as just a really big iphone which it is, I don't see a problem with have a 7 inch ipad. All the money still goes to apple and apple charges way more than it cost them so it's only a win for them.

    Apply might do this is the next 10 inch ipad is just as heavy as this one. The ipad is too heavy. Hold a galaxy tab and tell that doesn't feel good.
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    I think iPad 2 will be smaller in size, maybe not 7 inch, but probably 8 or something similar. This is because the samsung tab has sold 1 million already, thus there is room in the Market for a small size. 8 inch would actually be perfect : smaller and lighter but sill a good size to produce stunning apps and would still make a good size to watch movies.
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    Due to the fact that a smaller iPad will cut into the sales of the regular iPad I can't see them creating another product....just improving on this one.
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    A 7 inch pad isn't much more portable than the current size. Neither fits into your pocket. I think the screen real estate is one of the Ipad's greatest strengths.
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    After reading a few Galaxy Tab reviews I really don't see Apple releasing a 7" iPad anytime soon.




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    We've been thinking the 7" vs. iPad question a lot. We think that 7" will always be a purely personal device, so it's competing with mobile phones.

    Surprisingly iPad is more than a personal device. It's almost something like super-portable TV: you can consume media on iPad together with other people. It's better for this kind of shared media consumption than a laptop, because iPad's effective view angle is much better than laptop's. We have been play testing our upcoming iPad game and in addition to 2 players, there has been audience of over 5 people, all seeing and enjoying the game same time. This is not something that you see happening with laptops.

    Thus, in our opinion, iPad is a totally new kind of device, while 7" tablets are a continuum of personal mobile devices.

    We might be wrong, but we see Apple making a larger iPhone (5"?) than a smaller iPad.
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    I thought I would jump back in here because many are missing my point. As I said I agree that the current iPad is the perfect size. I also agree that the 7 inch is too small. My point is there are 1,000,000 people that disagree. The key to their purchase of the Galaxy Tab is that size was their top priority. The reason why I feel I can make such a definitive conclusion is the Tab has sold even though 1) effectively cost more than an iPad 2) not ready for prime time OS which Google even agrees 3) a lot less available apps.

    My reasoning for Apple to release an iPad mini is to thwart the competition's foothold in the tablet market. Understand, that Apple has spent many, many years developing the tablet. It would be nice to see Apple reap more than just being the one to start the revolution. Look back at Apple's own history. If Apple had paid attention to the market and made sure they didn't let IBM develop a foothold, things could be quite different now. You all know the old saying, "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it"

    Steve Jobs is an elitist and he would probably cringe at the idea but this is a strategic move. This is to delay the competition so Apple can further unravel their master plan. I believe Apple has an overall plan that involves the iPhone, iPad and Apple TV. Look at the iPad mini as being like the iPod Touch. The iPod Touch is not a game changer device, but it fits a niche and will spread this user family experience to more people
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    As I stated in another thread the reason we won't see a smaller iPad is the simple fact that most of the market a 7in device would cut into would be iPad.....meaning profits would be a wash not counting the millions it would take to design it. Aside from all that Apple is known for creating a product and sticking to them (example the MacBook line).

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