How do you see Apple killing Android forever ?

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    I already have an android pad { galaxy tab 7 inch } but very rarely use it at all and in all honesty I would get rid of it tomorrow if only my New I-pad or is it I-pad 3 ?

    1/ Supported flash and divx etc natively.

    2/ Had a memory card slot so I could swap about my stuff on cards instead of deleting and re-downloading stuff constantly'
    OH By the way I have 64 gig wireless so I cannot upgrade but these games are getting out of control I mean Fifa, Dead space, Real racing, Infinity blade etc,
    all are well over one gig and I only see them getting bigger how about you guys ?

    3/ Give us the option of being able to install music and movies without having to pig about with I-Tunes { copy and paste anyone ? }.

    That is really just about it I mean I know it will probably never happen but hey you are allowed to dream I suppose.

    P.S. Please don't think I am putting Apple down cos I kiss my I-PAD goodnight every night I love it that much and I honestly just want the above so I can get rid
    of the Android but what about it Apple ? I REALLY THINK YOU WILL KILL ANDROID OFF FOR GOOD.
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    I completely agree with you.

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    Doubt it. Such changes might swing some buyers, but not enough to kill Android. You know that Android is the best-selling platform among smart phones, right? Apple makes few devices to choose from. There are plenty of Android choices.

    To me, there's no best platform or device, except for personal preference. I take advantage of multiple platforms and devices, and I see no reason to limit myself.
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    Yeah I totally agree but Apple is Apple and Android must have at least a couple of hundred variants over makers and versions cos believe me you very very rarely get the
    opportunity on any Android phone or Tablet to upgrade your operating system like you do with apple.
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    These are the reasons android is even successful. And the exact same reasons I'm going to be owning an android tab soon.
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    I follow news across platforms, and Android upgrades are available for many devices I've read about. The experience varies from device to device, and manufacturer to manufacturer, and sometimes carrier to carrier depending on the device. It can be a PITA, and Apple's upgrades are more predictable and stable by comparison.

    That will always be the case when you compare one manufacturer with complete control (Apple) vs. many manufacturers, plus carriers.

    There are tradeoffs to picking any one platform or device, which is why I won't limit myself. And I doubt the market will all fall behind Apple. It doesn't make sense for any consumer to root for a monopoly anyway, no matter the industry. Competition is in our interest, no matter what we buy.
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    No way. I own both the new iPad and the Transformer Prime and the the wide screen format of the Android tablets, card slots, keyboard dock, 16 hour battery life, etc... I was really surprised that Apple didn't up the stakes with the new iPad because to me for once Apple did not take the lead back with their new offering!
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    You basically named off the reasons why Android will likely never die. Frankly, only Google can kill Android and I think they have been trying to, at least on tablets. Given that the most successful Android tablet to date is the Kindle Fire, which is so walled off it might as well be Apple, you kind of have to wonder about Android on tablets. In the phone market, people like choices and Android is more than good enough most of the time to keep people happy. If people lived with sucky Windows Mobile (which, for me, rebooted itself several times a day) for two years, then can certainly be happy with Android 2.3 for two years. But tablets are devices which most people don't really need and so the experience needs to be a cut above. That's why Apple is so dominate there, but even that will change over time. And you stated the exact reasons why, even though, frankly, I can get around each of them on the iPad. Most people don't bother to figure out how.
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    I think in all honesty my dislike of Android 2.3 {gingerbread} is mostly that when I close down my £400 tablet is that it informs me that my PHONE is turning off OHHH my god that peeves me off so much I could honestly smash it at times.
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    Thankfully Android will be around for a very very long time. And I am grateful for it.

    Apple has a target. Apple has a muse. Apple has a true competitor.

    iOS will only get better because of Android.
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    Yeah, I can understand that...and it is a shame when ICS is a perfectly fine OS for a tablet.
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    I don't think Android is going anywhere. Personally, I like using different OS. As much as I like the openness of Android, I like the predictability of Apple. I'm due for an upgrade in June and I'm seriously torn between going 4S or sticking with another android. I have a fickle relationship with the two. As much as I love being able to flash different ROMs, in my opinion you just can't beat how smooth and polished Apple is.
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    Agreed.
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    These are the exact reasons I got the tab 7. I also wanted something smaller to put in my purse, and when I can't pull up something on my ipad, i can with my tab.
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    I still enjoy messing with my droid phones and like many of the features. Android is not going anywhere. However, they have a long way to go in the race to catch up in the tablet business. I had always wanted a droid tablet to play with but did not want to pay for one so I ended up trading one of my RC helis for a Transformer and while it had the features of android I liked the tablet as a whole felt cheap and was just junk. I sold the Transformer in hopes of upgrading it to the Transformer Prime when it came out but the Prime turned out to be the biggest tablet flop to date. Never could get my hands on one due to very poor product launch and when they were finally available they had so many problems that Asus basically scrapped them for the TF700 which is due out this summer. So ended up using that money to upgrade to the New iPad. Money much better spent.
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    No kidding. I had the prime on pre-order. I was so disappointed when it hit the streets and Asus had screwed up the design and all the antennas were compromised. Dang. And every time Asus releases a tablet you can't find it anywhere, which worked out to my advantage this time because we got to learn of all the issues and thus had time to cancel the order. Then they announced the HD version (before almost anyone had the prime -- talk about killing you own product). I mean --- talk about a sad screen......its no wonder apple is making all the money on tablets --- the google-led android market is simply a mess!
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    AQ_OC. and seneca18
    I own Transformer Prime as well as original Transformer and some others. Both Asus tablets work wonderfully. Prime has weaker GPS and WiFi in comparison to TF101, bu still pulls 59MBS from 40 feet away. Asus is NOT killing Prime (please spend some time on Android Tablets forums), it is introducing new device. Apple has only 1 (one) tablet, and the iPad (latest version) is not that hot specs vise in comparison to others (cameras, CPU, GPU just to mention few). It is very stable and has a lot of good features. Just the fact that another manufacturer is introducing new device does not mean that is killing the other. Look on Asus lineup of their tablets. All of them are active products. As I said above, iPad is very good product depending how you intend to used it and how much control over your own device you want to have. IMHO it is personal choice. On the other hand I do agree with statement, that we need Android and even Windows8 in order to have healthy competition. Competition create progress and advance in technology.
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    I do spend a lot of time on Android forums...and on the hardware forum and a LOT of owners have complained bitterly about the problems with the prime (many have reported about the poor performance of wifi, and gps, and even bluetooth on the prime -- so much so that Asus is releasing a add-on device to address the gps issue). And what I meant about killing the prime is when you release a product in January and then announce that a revised model is coming out 6 months later, that effectively kills a product because many people will do just as I did, cancel their prime order and wait for the newer model.

    Spec-wise, I don't see any real advantages in the prime over the iPad 2 or iPad 3, my reason for getting an Android is because I like tablets and I have a LOT of Android purchased software. It only makes sense for me to have both platforms. Otherwise, I lose my investment in apps. And I do like that I can dig in further with Android (though I am not convince this nets me much, as I can find ways to do all the same things in iOS). I'm a old ms-dos/vms/unix guy, so I have no issues with getting my hands dirty.

    I don't know...I'm kinda disappointed in Asus over the last prime release. I bought my Acer Iconia A500 because I could not get my hands on the first Transformer....it was not in stock any where for a long time....and then I pre-ordered the Prime and it too was hard get...then the problems were discovered, so I canceled that order. I own an Asus motherboard...and will probably buy another one in a couple of years, but I'm not sure I want to trust Asus on their tablets. Just too many issues. We'll see. Maybe they will do better with the TF701 this summer. But I definitely won't be the first to get one. Too risky. I'm also not a fan of the form factor used on Android tablets. Movie watching should not be a reason to use a 16:9 form factor.
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    I think Apple may have reached their peak, and as they now have far more credible opposition in the market place, we will see their market share reduce over the next few years.

    Unless they come out with something totally amazing, which I suspect is unlikely to happen. I suspect it will continue with more muchness, while the Android market will continue to take a bigger slice. I certainly think Samsungs super Oled technology will be the future direction, both for small hand held devices and large TV's. Once perfected it will enhance our TV's tremendiously, and will be nice to get rid of backlights once and for all... and can look forward to some nice contrasty panels with true blacks.. so that's a exciting possibility. I use a iPhone4s but I still think the wifes Galaxy S2's slightly lower resolution Super oled screen looks better, and certainly clearer and more visible in bright sunlight. JMO

    The more expensive Android tablets are pretty good, weve had a couple ourselves, (though 1 was crap) I certainly miss their back button options on my iPads, so for much less money and with better screens on the horizon they are attractive and probably better value to people who are not bothered because it doesn't have Apple name printed on it. For value for money they are far likely the better buy... value for money wise.
    I have a Apple Air laptop, and its so sleek and thin it really is amazing, but like the iPads you pay a big price for that, because you no longer have connections and ports we take for granted on a standard laptop, therefore for that reason we would never get rid of our normal laptop or my desktop for that reason.
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    I also own both the new iPad and the Asus Transformer TF101. If my Transformer was more stable and had better apps and had the retina display, I'd jettison the iPad in a heart beat. Conversely, if the iPad adopted some Android features like the Swype keyboard (or alternate keyboards in general) and had better interop between apps and a true keyboard dock, I'd give the Transformer the boot. My allegiances are practical!

    Right now Android ICS doesn't hold a candle to the iPad in terms of tablet apps. A case in point is mind mapping apps and diagraming. So for now the iPad wins for me.

    I am also watching Microsoft to see how they handle the upcoming Windows 8 release. It is too early to tell...

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