HACKING SECTION RULES - please read.

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  1. Max

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    Welcome to the Hacking Section!

    Jailbreaking per-se isn't illegal, as long as all modification is to your own property.
    BUT, trying to promote, sell, or share jailbroken firmware or hacked software however is, as its under Apples copyright and patent.

    Discussion of pirated or cracked applications and any methods associated with enabling their use, such as posting app or repository names, is forbidden on this forum. This also includes discussion of illegally obtaining media such as music, movies, games, or other copyrighted content.

    Piracy is illegal and the staff of iPadForums.net neither condone nor support it in any way. Jailbreaking and hacking IS NOT a licence to steal or pirate software or media.

    ROMS for nintendo, playstation and all other emulators are at best a grey area and therefore fall under the same category as piracy on these forums. No discussion on sourcing ROMS for emulators will be tolerated, although discussions about the emulators themselves is acceptable.

    Links to upgrades for BETA software, including beta copies of IOS, are also forbidden as is the discussion of obtaining device activation slots on other members Apple Developer accounts.

    Discussions, links, and sharing of any of these on the forum will be deleted and the member will receive a warning.
    A second warning may lead to an immediate ban.

    Happy hacking folks! :)
     
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  2. Takenover83

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    Hmmmm. I helped a member earlier by linking him to article which told him where to put "roms" on his iPhone/iPad for the emulator he was using. He did not ask for roms or tell anyone how he obtained them. I will just assume he obtained them via legal methods. Was I wrong for linking him to said article? I ask because I no longer see the topic.
     
  3. Max

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    No worries mate! I saw it and it hit me we didnt cover our butts from legal problems by setting rules and guidelines for this section.
    There is no legal way to obtain these roms as nintendo etc hasnt released any for the iphone or the ipad.
    I deleted it and neither of ya are in any trouble!
     
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    Max, i clearly understand your concern , so it’s better to don’t have hacking section, NO because it will be difficult to talk about this subject without provide link for reply at some post … or publish example

    And in the same time i dono why cydia can keep continue to exist and don’t be sued by Apple
     
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    They can't really. Straight from the wiki.
    The way I interpret this is that Cydia's roots go back to debian, which is a Linux distro, and ofcourse is open-source. Cydia is just a package manager which gets all it's software via repositories, which can be customized by the user. Nothing really illegal about this.
     
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    Ok, time to explain the difference between hacking and piracy.
    Lets say you buy a brand new car and youre not happy with how it runs for one reason or another, you make some modifications to it! New transmission from a 3rd party vendor, new exhaust etc. Thats all legal and can be compared to hacking.
    But when you buy original parts and distribute, (or sell) copies of them, it will fall under patent and copyright infringement and could lead to legal actions if youre caught.
    Cydia is a competitive alternative to the appstore (it originally only held free apps) thats installed when you jailbreak (hack) your ipad. In turn, the apps for sale in Cydia these days are original apps. Not stolen or copied elsewhere. There are sources available to install in Cydia which will allow you to download stolen software (falls under piracy which is illegal).

    Apple has termed Cydia to fall under DMCA (Digital Millennium Copyright Act) but with little success have they been able to shut Saurik down.
     
  7. Linkreincarnate

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    I have to say that I'll follow the rules but I don't agree with the no roms rule. You're allowing the corporations to bully people out of fair use. Roms are entirely legal provided you own a legitimate copy of the game. All of these websites getting in a huff over roms should research the law.
     
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    US law doesn't magically take precedence in the rest of the world believe it or not.
     
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    I just went in to the apple store with my jail broken ipad and ipod and needed a replacement ipod and the people working there stared at me. funny as hell
     
  10. Bob Maxey

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    I really hate to be a disagreeable putz-nubbin, but why change now?(LOL) I hate that my first post is a rather acrid and disagreeable one.

    If I understand you correctly, you are talking about those little chips (or in this case, a software equivalent) for all of those wonderful games we dropped quarter after quarter into at the local arcade. The ROMs are then used with a program like MAME. Correct?

    I know a few devotees of the old games and they have hundreds of games on disk. Like Donkey Kong, Pac Man and the like. They do not own the real arcade game because owning hundreds of arcade machines is out of the question due to a lack of real estate and space.

    So my answer is this: you are wrong, unless I am missing something. I own lots of IP created by others, as do you and all of us gathered here. Just because we own copies of this and that (ROMs, books, music, etc) we do not have any legal right to post copies on the web. I cant for the life of me find a law that allows you to post copies of copyright protected IP just because you own the original.

    And a cursory search reveals hundreds of sites in which you can procure ROMs and emulators. Wanna bet those that are making these images available do not own the game or those that DL them do not own the game?

    You claim fair use... do you know what that means? In the world of literature and magazines, fair use is not entire use. You cannot post significant parts of a book or article legally. So I cannot for the life of me figure out if you are confused about the legal definition of the term Fair Use.

    Forgive me if I am missing a few fine points and I certainly do not mean disrespect or harm. It is just that so many on the web cite fair use when it clearly does not apply. As a freelance writer, IP and its protection is important.

    Bob Maxey
     
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    I should've read this thread sooner to get a better understanding. I only mentioned the name of a certain app and recieving a 1st warning for it. I know saying what it does or even where to get it is violating forum rules but the mere mention of the name? Come on man..give me a break...sheeez. Juss saying!
     
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    All it takes is the name, then Google finds it. And . . . we are here as guests so we should obey.

    Bob
     
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    Well said Bob ~

    I am bumping this thread for those of us that need to refresh our memory with regards to the Forum Rules in the iPad Hacking section.
     
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    A. No one was defending uploading roms to the internet. That is a clever straw man arguement though. I was defending the legality of roms and emulators in general. The original poster went out of their way to state that all roms and emulators are illegal which is false. Some roms may be illegal and no emulators are ever illegal. If they were zophar's domain would have been history lomg ago.
    B. As a game developer I understand the need to protect my intelectual property rights, I do not however feel the need to erode fair use laws to bolster my profits.
    C. I know exactly what fair use means. Beyond allowing partial use in other works for educational and parody purposes, fair use also creates a legal right to make backup copies of your software, music, and videogames. I said nothing about posting those things on the internet, that is just another straw man arguement. Maybe you should have checked that YOU really knew what fair use is before posting. Had you even considered that all of those people on the internet crying fair use were right? How did you think it was legal to rip a cd onto your computer?

    anyway dont break anything getting off your high horse...
     
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