What are you guys doing right NOW??? ;)

[Kaykaykay]

Yes, there's nothing else we can do but getting over it and starting all over again.

It sounds like your students were treated unfairly, but maybe this is a teaching opportunity. Even if treated unfairly, they can choose how to react. Even if protesting through channels might not lead to change, it's worth fighting on their behalf and showing them they're worth it, and how to conduct themselves.

Bigger picture: Outside rewards are nice, but there's a lot of worth in knowing that you worked hard and did your best, and hopefully had some fun while doing it. And they can always opt to work even harder and excel. That's a good lesson to learn, especially while young. Resiliency is something that serves us well throughout life, and helps feed success long term. Being treated unfairly also helps teach empathy. If the adults around them make the most of this experience, the kids can learn more than they ever could've by just winning a trophy.

I had jobs earlier when I encountered immature co-workers and bad bosses, for instance, and I ended up learning more -- about how not to behave and how to manage effectively -- than I ever would've in better circumstances. Those experiences helped me succeed down the road, and I'm very appreciative that I got the opportunities, in retrospect.

When bad things happen, people who are mature have the opportunity to set an example, and kids can learn from that, even if they don't realize it.

 

[J. A.]

It sounds like your students were treated unfairly, but maybe this is a teaching opportunity. Even if treated unfairly, they can choose how to react. Even if protesting through channels might not lead to change, it's worth fighting on their behalf and showing them they're worth it, and how to conduct themselves.

Bigger picture: Outside rewards are nice, but there's a lot of worth in knowing that you worked hard and did your best, and hopefully had some fun while doing it. And they can always opt to work even harder and excel. That's a good lesson to learn, especially while young. Resiliency is something that serves us well throughout life, and helps feed success long term. Being treated unfairly also helps teach empathy. If the adults around them make the most of this experience, the kids can learn more than they ever could've by just winning a trophy.

I had jobs earlier when I encountered immature co-workers and bad bosses, for instance, and I ended up learning more -- about how not to behave and how to manage effectively -- than I ever would've in better circumstances. Those experiences helped me succeed down the road, and I'm very appreciative that I got the opportunities, in retrospect.

When bad things happen, people who are mature have the opportunity to set an example, and kids can learn from that, even if they don't realize it.

My marching band was participating in a competition. I'm an active member. There are children playing, too. Most of us are adult.
I do know that we weren't good enough to become one of the top three. We certainly were better than the resulting placement.

It just hurts for some time, investing hours and weekends and even weekdays of hard work, and not being judged fair.
I'm over it in the meantime. Life goes on, and who knows what it was good for? Perhaps it puts us closer together.

 

[Roy Rob]

It sounds like your students were treated unfairly, but maybe this is a teaching opportunity. Even if treated unfairly, they can choose how to react. Even if protesting through channels might not lead to change, it's worth fighting on their behalf and showing them they're worth it, and how to conduct themselves.

Bigger picture: Outside rewards are nice, but there's a lot of worth in knowing that you worked hard and did your best, and hopefully had some fun while doing it. And they can always opt to work even harder and excel. That's a good lesson to learn, especially while young. Resiliency is something that serves us well throughout life, and helps feed success long term. Being treated unfairly also helps teach empathy. If the adults around them make the most of this experience, the kids can learn more than they ever could've by just winning a trophy.

I had jobs earlier when I encountered immature co-workers and bad bosses, for instance, and I ended up learning more -- about how not to behave and how to manage effectively -- than I ever would've in better circumstances. Those experiences helped me succeed down the road, and I'm very appreciative that I got the opportunities, in retrospect.

When bad things happen, people who are mature have the opportunity to set an example, and kids can learn from that, even if they don't realize it.

I am truly impressed Kaykaykay...that was so profound, and beautifully written. As the OB (Andrew) said, there are some awesome people on this forum.

 

[J. A.]

I am truly impressed Kaykaykay...that was so profound, and beautifully written. As the OB (Andrew) said, there are some awesome people on this forum.

I agree.

 

[Kaykaykay]

My marching band was participating in a competition. I'm an active member. There are children playing, too. Most of us are adult.
I do know that we weren't good enough to become one of the top three. We certainly were better than the resulting placement.

It just hurts for some time, investing hours and weekends and even weekdays of hard work, and not being judged fair.
I'm over it in the meantime. Life goes on, and who knows what it was good for? Perhaps it puts us closer together.

That sounds very unfortunate and I hear what you're saying. It's tough to work hard and not get what you earned.

Maybe your band and others can unite to demand more transparent judging and scoring. Even if you don't get changes for your band this time, you could help make the competition stronger in the long run. More transparency could help eliminate unfairness and give bands a better sense of what judges are supposed to value (and might keep clueless judges in check).

 

[Kaykaykay]

I am truly impressed Kaykaykay...that was so profound, and beautifully written. As the OB (Andrew) said, there are some awesome people on this forum.

Thanks, Roy Rob.

 

[J. A.]

That sounds very unfortunate and I hear what you're saying. It's tough to work hard and not get what you earned.

Maybe your band and others can unite to demand more transparent judging and scoring. Even if you don't get changes for your band this time, you could help make the competition stronger in the long run. More transparency could help eliminate unfairness and give bands a better sense of what judges are supposed to value (and might keep clueless judges in check).

I know that our conductor is planning to send a video with our performances to Eisenstadt. It will not change the result, but perhaps we get an explanation where we lost points, and we hope it will prevent future injustices.

 

[Kaykaykay]

I know that our conductor is planning to send a video with our performances to Eisenstadt. It will not change the result, but perhaps we get an explanation where we lost points, and we hope it will prevent future injustices.

It's good that your conductor plans to follow through.

IMO it seems like all competitors could use more transparency when it comes to judging, and they shouldn't have to pursue specifics only if shortchanged. More transparent, consistent judging would be good for all competitors -- even those who don't place now could get a better idea of what they should be aiming for in pursuit of excellence. We can learn from each other even when we're not winning. Having clear standards to aspire to seems good for us all, and if a competition is inherently unfair, maybe other competitors will prefer to know that going in.

 

[J. A.]

It's good that your conductor plans to follow through.

IMO it seems like all competitors could use more transparency when it comes to judging, and they shouldn't have to pursue specifics only if shortchanged. More transparent, consistent judging would be good for all competitors -- even those who don't place now could get a better idea of what they should be aiming for in pursuit of excellence. We can learn from each other even when we're not winning. Having clear standards to aspire to seems good for us all, and if a competition is inherently unfair, maybe other competitors will prefer to know that going in.

That's right, I agree entirely.

 

[Richard Brown]

I am truly impressed Kaykaykay...that was so profound, and beautifully written. As the OB (Andrew) said, there are some awesome people on this forum.

Here here.

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[nathan the ipad lover]

Singing some Buddy Holly tunes

A Commodore 64 a day keeps the Apple II away!

 

[Richard Brown]

Checking out up and coming events in London.

The Worshipful Company of Carmen's parade of transport through the ages on 17th July looks very interesting.

This is the event advert.




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[The OB]

Checking out up and coming events in London.

The Worshipful Company of Carmen's parade of transport through the ages on 17th July looks very interesting.

This is the event advert.

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That's a wonderful thing about London; always lots of interesting things to see and do.
Andrew


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[leelai]

Rejoicing that I have wifi again after 3 days without it! Woohoo!!

 

[squib]

Hey everyone, I know I have been missing for 10 days. The hospital did every possible thing they could do to mess me around. All of a dr.s ego being bigger than there brains! I won't use the words I want to use, this being a family friendly place which is my favourite place to come everyday. Anyway, needless to say I signed myself out against Dr 's orders ! I couldn't blow that popcorn stand fast enough! Needless to say I have learned a very important lesson! Sorry this doesn't sound funny but I always check this site out to find myself laughing like crazy, out loud all alone - now who wouldn't want that! If you go to hospital in crisis, as soon as the crisis is over get the heck out - even if you have to sign yourself out against your hospital Dr 's orders unless its the a Dr YOU know of your own physicians. Then you won't have to let them make a guinea pig out of you! UNLESS IN CRISIS ! DO NOT GO UP TO THE WARDS! IF YOU LIVE IN MR BC !

Movie-
I would love to know - would anyone take even one bite of this? Just yes or no will do! I would be very happy for lot's of people to take part.



This isn't part of the poll but imagined being sick and in crisis enough to call 911 , you are in real crisis trying to just stay alive, and they plop that down at nose and eye level? Now that's a joke! Also I will be able when I am not so weak to tell you how I honest to God went through a real time "One Flew over the Cukoo's Nest" and that part is as funny as anything I saw or read Ken Kesey's book. Unfortunately he has already passed because I would have been in touch with him somehow,! Want to know some thing strange and unusual? The woman in the bed next to me not only knew Ken Kesey but stayed in his remote cabin, apparently he was a recluse and never spent any of the money he got from the book or movie. If anyone knows different please let me know. OK you super Moderators etc, please if you think this needs to go somewhere else on the Forum I have no problem! It has taken me six hrs to just put this up, I as weak as a new born and this has taken me all day a minute at a time to type.
PLEASE could you please do with it as you see best! Thank you for your help. This is me signing off. I am so glad to be home! And I can talk to all my friends and catch up on there post! Thanks, again, Squib.