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    Hi!

    I am a carer for a young girl (9) who is ASD Vi (no useful vision) and has SLD.

    After many months of battling VI services in the area for an iPad for her, with no results, I applied to a charity and got one!! An iPad 2, with external QWERTY keyboard (as I have taught her to touch type) and a griffin military case!! Very pleased to say the least!

    My main reason for posting here is I am now looking to set it all up for her.

    Does any one have any recommendations as to what I should enable/disable to make the iPad easy to use for her?

    Also any recommendations on Apps for the blind? I mainly want to use it for some number work, audio books, audiotary games for when she is on 'free time,' and the ability to put on it videos or pages relating to her school work that she can access herself and listen to independently. I ideally want to be able to put text documents onto it, titled, so she can find them herself and get them read to in, in reference to school subjects and topics as well as putting her own IEP stuff onto it. Am I asking too much?

    I know I'm asking a lot, but after fighting so hard to get her one, I really want to get the best from it.

    Thanks

    ASDVISLD
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    Thank you for the reply.

    I have been having a good look round and there really is some super stuff out there for special needs.

    I, in an ideal world, also want to make an iPad choose board. Where I can load 4/5 icons on the screen and she can choose one and it link into the activity, name the page 'time to choose' and let her choose her own activities.

    With enough research there must be a away!!

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    I'm not sure I entirely understand the choose board but if it can be done then I'm certain that someone here will know......I would suggest posting in the Special Needs section as not everyone checks the new member intro's.

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    When using PECS with ASD children, they have a choose board. So it will have pictures on it, say a computer/outside play area/inside play area/cars and they remove one picture and bring it to me. That is them choosing to do that activity.

    As the child in question enjoys music, stories, rhyming stories, I was hoping there was a way I could list these on one screen and for her to scroll over them so they are read out, and then a double click to choose one and it hyperlink into the app or book and she can then play/listen to her choice.

    Make sense?
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    You could make a home screen with just the specific apps (it's easy to do and we can walk you through it) then the voice over guide I linked to earlier has details of how the iPad will read out the apps on that page as she touches them. Specific books might be more difficult, but if say, she opened iBooks using that method then the same process could be repeated to find the specific book.

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    BTW, I just typed PECS into the App Store search and it came up with some useful looking apps (once you ignore the body building stuff lol!).

    Does she use Braille? The iPad does work with Braille controllers.

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    Yeah I did think about just making a folder on the home screen of things she can choose for her 'free time' at school so she can go in it using voice over and choose those apps in there. That might be simpler. Thanks.

    I also was going to make folders for each day of the week in regards to her curriculum work, so I can put worksheets or videos in them the relate to the subject so that she can sit down herself, open Monday and start the day independently. Her parents can them see/share what she has done at school on the weekend.

    So many ideas for her, just trial and error I guess.
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    She doesn't really use braille. She is not your typical tactile learner that you would get with a VI.

    If it doesn't create an auditory response, she isn't really interested. Again the VI service have denied her an iPad for 18 months and there is no braille reader in sight either.
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    I'm not sure if that would work in the way that you think as iOS isn't file driven, all files reside in apps, so it can be achieved but from inside apps.....you just have to "think different" but once you get the hang of the non-file system it really is easy.

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    Just a recommendation to make it easier for others to help, might be helpful to spell out the diagnostic conditions this child may have versus PECS or IV. That way, others can readily get on and help as well.

    Coming from the Medical Industry as well, there are many medical terms and abbreviations we use that are quite common to us but not to others. This might help in your search for help. :)
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    But i can cluster apps together can't i? I did on an iPad before, I'm sure I did.

    like this:

    To create a folder:
    1. Touch and hold an app icon until it starts wiggling.
    2. While the icons are wiggling, drag one app on top of another app.
    3. A folder will be created containing the two apps.
    4. Rename the folder or touch the folder icon to keep the name suggested by Apple.
    5. Press the home button to stop the icons from wiggling.
    To add more apps to a folder:
    1. Touch and hold an app icon until it starts wiggling.
    2. While the icons are wiggling, drag one app onto the existing folder.
    3. The app icon is moved to the folder.
    4. Press the home button to stop the icons from wiggling.
    When you touch a folder, all apps inside the folder are displayed and can be opened from the folder.
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    Yes, absolutely, you can put them in a folder or on their own home screen. If you know the basics of an iPad you are halfway there!

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    Ok will do.

    The child is with autism often having extreme behaviors and outbursts. She is completely blind, fed through a tube into her stomach and has severe learning difficulties. Being blind is not her main problem, is she was sighted she is as such she would still suffer from the same problems. This is why I struggle with the VI service in the county, they see her as blind, I see her as autistic. They want her to be a tactile learner which, she cannot possibly be, as put her hand in paint/glue/wet and she vomits.

    With autistic children in the school, we use a picture exchange system (PECS). They are able to see their timetable/choices/instructions on 6x4 photographs, or for the ones further along symbols or single words. The child in question cannot access PECS in the same way due to her lack of vision. We do have an auditory timetable and talking tin which can act as reminders of acceptable behaviour for the social setting i.e time to be quiet/sitting still. I also have location markers for her so she will know, be association, where we are going via that marker.

    She is verbal which does help alot but also can be a problem. Using PECS it is easier to take the picture away and change it for something else if plans or circumstance change. It is a lot more difficult to take back a verbal instruction.

    That is pretty much where we are at the moment. I am trying to introduce the aspect of change at the minute using a surprise/something special technique. This is where she is told what is going to happen, but when handed a sponge (our marker for surprise) she knows the next activity is not what she thought it was going to be..

    She amazing on the piano and keyboard and is a lovely little girl. She just needs someone to give her options that she couldn't choose herself as she doesn't know the exisit, and that's where I come in :) She can now swim, even under water, which 18 months ago wouldn't even get in the water.
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    If those PECS board apps are appropriate then combined with the iPads Special Needs capabilities they may be perfect as the iPad will read the pictures out for her.

    BTW, Skimonkey is my guide through all of this as I have no medical knowledge at all!

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    That'll be really helpful for our members so they can understand what her physical limitations and her specific needs are.

    Have you seen these two links?

    One is guided access where you can lock certain apps to keep those open without accidentally closing it out by pressing the home button. http://www.ipadforums.net/special-n...-needs-autism-adhd-learning-disabilities.html

    Also,have you see this thread link for autism apps?

    http://www.ipadforums.net/apps-spec...der-asd-other-developmental-disabilities.html
    http://www.ipadforums.net/apps-special-needs/4866-there-simple-yes-no-app.html
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    I've had a look at a few things, and I'm starting to think the simpler the better really. I don't want to make it overly complicated for her and grow frustrated with an object that could really aid her learning.

    I'm lucky in that I have another year and a half (academically) with her and I am also her out direct payments carer so I can spend time with her on it. I want her to get enjoyment/learning/fun out of it but don't want to blur the boundaries of school/home with movies etc.
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    Yes, keep it simple and without distractions.

    I am not sure which region you belong, but in the USA, many health organizations have educational programs focused on the use and applications of the iPad for families and their loved ones with autism. In addition, many schools have educational programs similar to this as well which you might want to tap into for additional resources.

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