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Discussion in 'iPad General Discussions' started by Snowwhite, Feb 8, 2011.

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    Hi there

    Can anyone advise whether is there an apps for java n flash? It seems that some sites I go do not function well whenever there is a java or flash required when I used Safari compared to IE.

    Anyone can advise?:confused:
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    The iPad does not support Flash. More-or-less that's the end of the story. There are some third-party browsers that use a 'work around' to render Flash on the company's remote server, but performance is not always that good (for example difficult playing videos) and some sites don't work.

    Moral of the story is, unfortunately, that you can't really view Flash content using the iPad. This is a contentious and hotly debated topic in this Forum.

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    Hi Tim

    Thanks for your quick response. Is there a 3rd party apps(open source type)?;)
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    Hi Snowwhite, be warned you've stumbled into a war zone!
    Lots of threads, some acrimonious, on these forums regarding apples decision to omit flash support. Look them up if you're bored.

    Flash games are impossible due to the major differences between mouse and touch control, but there are some workarounds to flash video via specialised browsers such as Puffin and Skyfire. They don't always work though.
    Personally I find Puffin semi acceptable ymmv.
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    Hi there

    Thanks for the warning..........I am on "stealth mode"........hee hee:p

    Anyway, looks like it is going to be a long way before it could happen.....thanks....;)
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    It will never be the end of the story! :D
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    I like the description of this being a 'war zone'!!

    I read an interesting article, referenced in this Forum, that suggested that Apple's decision not to support Flash was as a result of the way that Flash interprets 'cursor hover'. The author suggested that, on many Flash-enabled web pages, 'hovering' the cursor over a link will produce a response - such as a drop-down menu, enabling a list of, say, selectable options to appear.

    Clearly, since the iPad doesn't have a cursor, the concept of 'cursor hover' doesn't really exist, so such sites would cause a problem for the iPad.

    One of the Forum's frequent posters has a tag line 'Help Apple kill Flash - buy an iPad'.

    Tim
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    PS I agree, it *is* never the end of the story!!
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    I've had lots of sites where instead of a drop down menu as flash would drop down, but a selection wheel that works effectively. So if the flash sites just look into that, it's a step away from killing flash ;)
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    Is there anyway to test web pages (using IE) to see what would happen if one did not have flash? I'd like to know the impact of this before I buy an iPad.

    Thanks

    Mike
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    /target Dead Horse
    /kick
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    Huh?
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    The whole Java/Flash discussion is a "dead horse" that just continues to get kicked in thread after thread after thread.
    Last edited: Feb 9, 2011
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    Yeah, but new people join the forum every day! (thank goodness!) Its just our cross to bear.

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    Who should be pushed to search. Or combine all the flash discussions into one and sticky it.

    Till then:
    /target Dead Horse
    /kick
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    I have been around forums long enough to know that most people don't even know they can search through existing posts and even if we do combine all the Flash threads into one post, someone will just start another one!
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    Lets not get in a time war... I go back into BB days when they were just dialup at 1200 baud. Back before browsers allowed images, much less embedded video. Names like Prodigy, Compuserv, AOL had their private networks seperate from the "internet."

    People know they can search, but most think their question is "unique, never asked before" and just don't bother to search.
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    1200 baud? I started at 300 baud!
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    I started using the original "Internet" before there was any such thing as personal computers. We call it amateur radio! And although no longer required, you used to have to know Morse code at the blazing speed of 5 words per minute just to get on the air!

    The first digital mode was called RTTY (Radio TeleTYpe) and it is still extremely popular today. It runs at a blazing 45 baud and there is no error correction... so it truly is what you see is what you get... typos and all! In the early days (before computers), we would use actual teletype machines that were converted so that they could be used on radio instead of land lines and you stored your "files" on rolls of punched paper tape!

    Beat that!
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    Dood - just how tall WERE the dinosaurs?
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    I never got that close to find out. That's why I am still here to talk about it!

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