iPad is Great, iTunes is not.

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    Had a horrible day trying to backup and restore my brand new iPad, because iTunes is just about the WORST application for Windows, ever.

    iTunes has reported my iPad as non-existent or only having 4Gbytes of storage (it's a 64GB model), and the apps sometimes just do not work after a sync operation (tap them, they open up and immediately close). ALL of the installed apps have had this behaviour, and iTunes says my ipad cannot backup due to various internal errors with weird numbers like -54 and -48.

    Someone (somewhere) suggested using different USB adapters or ports, so I switched to using ports on the back of my (November 2009) computer instead of the front, which has (surprisingly) made a huge difference.

    Had a lot of trouble getting Kindle App to work , because the keyboard defaults to capitalization of first letter, and Amazon has CASE SENSITIVE email addresses, sheesh. Took me a long time to sort out that.

    the iPad itself is very very good when it's working. iTunes is so unreliable on Windows I'm honestly surprised it can be used. Awful awful application.

    It makes NO SENSE to my why I need to jailbreak my iPad to use a wifi-sync utility instead of being dependant upon a cable tethering the iPad to my damned computer!

    Wifi sync just makes incredible amounts of sense, whereas usb sync (when the PC can't supply the 'double wattage' to charge the ipad) makes VERY LITTLE sense.

    I got Air Video working, and it's simply stunning to watch ripped DVD's over wifi, stunning.

    So in closing, a huge thumbs up for the iPad, and a very very large thumbs DOWN to iTunes.

    (I hope this message doesn't get censored)
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    I agree with you to a certain extent. I hate how I have to convert videos to put them on my iPad. I had to go out and buy a second hard drive just for my iPad converted movies.

    I never had the issues that you had though.

    I did get an error when I first started using iTunes, it was basically a Windows Sync fatal error, but then it would usually continue to sync anyhow. Eventually I fixed it but I forget how I did it. I basically just Googled the error message.
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    Hmmm I actually find myself in the other camp.
    With the iPod touch I used every alternative to iTunes as I found it bloated, buggy and counter intuitive (yeah for apple....). Several times I found myself cursing as I just couldn't find the obscure blasted command I wanted to use.

    With the iPad I had to install the latest version of iTunes and am suprised at how quickly it syncs and backs up. Also loading my files, films and books has been much easier than I anticipated.

    Hopefully file transfers in particulare will be improved with the updated os in the fall.
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    Lol agree on converting films. Would be great if iTunes did that automatically for us.
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    I don't see why they couldn't incorporate that...after all, they have a built in WMV converter and whatnot. Perhaps a 10 dollar upgrade to iTunes or something so you could just drag and drop.

    Another thing, and I think it might be related to my jailbreaking, although it happened BEFORE I JB my iPad, is how iTunes sometimes randomly rearranges apps. Before it used to rearrange them in ABC order. Now I'm not sure the logic.
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    I've been using iTunes with Windows PCs for years, and at times have had small issues, but nothing major. However with my iPad, I've had zero issues. It has worked perfectly, as have all apps that I've gotten for iPad (about 100). And I say this having synced at least once a day.
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    No we would not censor your post no need to you need assistance and that's what we are here for a huge number of members own PC's so lets see what we can do to. Fix your problem

    Regards Colin
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    Agree, iTunes is crap. It could have been SO much better.

    Love the live video conversion idea!
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    Sorry to hear you're having trouble. Just for perspective, we've had zero problems with iTunes under Windows (we've been using iPods and iTunes since they were available on both platforms) on any of the systems we have here - that's two running XP, one Vista and one Win 7 machine, with an iTunes Library running to around 400Gb on an external drive.

    Hope you can get things sorted - please post again when you've resolved your issues; I'm sure it would be a big help to others who may be having trouble.

    Cheers, Pete
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    I wouldn't say itunes is unreliable as they've hardly ever crashed on me unlike other 3rd party iphone/ipod compatible softwares.

    They're just finicky on certain things like requiring certain voltages from usb ports and stuff.
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    When I first got my iPad, I could not sync with iTunes as my computer would not recognize the iPad. However, I installed a driver having googled the problem and all is well except my apps are always grayed out so do not sync. My other problem is that I have to remove Bonjour each time there is an iTunes update, so some file transfer apps do not work. Funnily enough, an older laptop gives me none of these problems but it is much easier to sync with the desktop. Interesting too is that I cannot reply on this forum using the browser Atomic Browser as the reply box is grayed out. All to challenge and make life fun!
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    What I hate most about itunes is that it's library frequent gets outdated. You add and delete movies, music outside iTunes, and it has no clue about what happened. Not to mention duplicates it creates...

    Terrible app.
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    I reply from Atomic Browser and Perfect just fine using the normal reply box. Doing it now! :) My browser is set as Safari for iPad, so that may be the difference, but I've never had a problem posting from either browser using the normal means
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    But Apple had to bring in a system that works as a centre for your content etc. now the iTunes has just got that! Imagine if you would need extra software for everything you can do with iTunes, regular users would go crazy:)
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    So true, windows iTunes sucks....oddly enough it is an excellant app on mac os tho.
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    Just a question: is it possible for searching for duplicates in the library (not just displaying them), by more than one criteria (ex. name, file contents, file size)?

    Does it automatically updates the library if you rename or add album art to a file? O change tags using another editor?

    Does it keep tracks of deletes and addition, not only for music, but books, videos, etc.?

    Because the Windows version does none of those things. It sucks. That's why I use Media Monkey.
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    I dont know if its a windows only thing, but itunes is just terrible. It doesnt auto update the library, it doesnt find most of my album art work, It can only handle a couple of music formats. The interface is awkward with settings buried all over the place. It needs a serious redesign.

    Apple could learn a lot from Microsoft's Zune software :) (I know that's heresy here) The Zune software will show any file of any type that windows can play in your library. It will convert seamlessly in the background when it syncs to the device if its an unsupported file type. If you copy a folder of music into your music folder, the software automatically picks it up and adds it to your library. It looks great too. Its also very easy in the Zune software to exclude individual files or albums, pictures, folders of pictures, videos, etc. You just right-click the item in your library and tell it not to sync it. When your device is connected you can browse the items on your device and remove them individually as well.
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    i totally agree, itune is too chunky and many functions are not needed
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    Hope some of the Apple iTunes developers are here in this forum reading our suggestions so that they can consider our needs for the next iTunes release.

    I'd really hope we can drag and drop songs, videos and photos into the iPhone or iPad like the WinMobile devices.
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    I drag and drop music to my iPad all the time, why would you think you couldn't?

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