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Can BlackBerry PlayBook Threaten iPad?

Discussion in 'iPad General Discussions' started by MobileSpoon, Sep 28, 2010.

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    I've reveiwed the new BlackBerry PlayBook Tablet in my blog, and while doing so, I found a lot of advantages (in terms of specs) over the iPad.

    Everything There Is To Know About BlackBerry PlayBook

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    Of course, those are all just theoretical advantages, as the product is not released yet, and we didn't even see much of it besides a promotion video.


    No one knows how the user experience will be, how the battery life or performance will be, how many apps will be included on launch, etc.


    What do you think?


    Do you think the BlackBerry / enterprise integration or the Flash support will be enough for organizations to easily adopt the new BlackBerry Tablet?


    With so many tablets released recently - Apple should quickly release a new iPad version with some killer features, don't you think?
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    i have a bb torch and there are some neat advantages, but the os is poor, a lot of hang ups.. i foresee bb going out of biz in about 5 years if they dont make some better smartphones with better os.. and they have no customer support, u actually have to pay to talk to tech support.. rubbish..and they release products that just cant compete and seem outdated...

    although i must say this tablet looks good..
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    If the playbook is to the ipad as the bb is to the iphone, then rim doesnt even come close.

    Being the owner of a bb, ip4, and an ipad, i can say that rim isn't even close with their current products.
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    BlackBerry toys

    the specs look goods , but as we know the spec’s is not enough …. BB play like all computer maker WHO HAVE THE BIGGEST ONE flash is just a small point than more and more people care less ….

    some shadow still stay concerning this device : like the battery life , the price , the internal memory size if RIM hide this that mean is not so good for them ….

    I guess many people in Cupertino laugh after see the presentation of this wana be
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    I'm not quite sure what you mean by 'threaten'. I can tell you I've been a BB phone user for years and while the phones, and their email and messaging capabilities are great, web browsing and applications suck. I get the impression that BB will be marketing these tablets at corporate businesses - going after the enterprise-wide connected groups.

    I will make one observation: It seems like, anymore, there are so many new tablets coming out that it will be a tad comical - everyone jockeying for position. If there were one or two serious iPad competitors - that would be one thing. But 7 or 8 really dilutes the field.
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    That seems a little harsh to me. Has Apple themselves ever "officially" announced the specs of the current Ipad? It seems to me the only way people figured out the CPU and internal memory size (assuming RAM here, not storage) was by taking the thing apart and posting pictures. I think BB is just trying to build up some anticipation, not unlike Apple's "next big thing" press events.
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    I have been reading about the BB tablet, the specs are good, but it just seems to be more like an oversized smart phone- I know, the iPad could be described as the same thing, but a 7" screen does seem kind of small.

    I have used plenty of BB phones and never really got around to liking the BB OS.

    I have no doubt some manufacturer will sell a tablet that trumps the iPad, I am just not sure teh BB PlayBook does it.
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    I imagine most of the competitors to the Ipad will have better hardware specs (it wouldn't be hard, let's admit it). Chances are they will have better support for things like Flash. They will probably have more convenience features, like USB ports, HDMI outputs and replaceable batteries. What they will not have however is the App Store. I cannot see BlackBerry making a serious run at the App Store and that pretty much kills the chances for success in my opinion. I don't see the screen size as being a huge plus or minus. People will learn to live with the screen if they embrace the device and they have access to the apps that they want.

    As far as I can tell, the only devices that have a chance at making a run at the Ipad are the Android devices. There is already a growing application store and as long as developers continue to use it there will be devices to compete with Apple.
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    Anyone know how much it will be?
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    @Dave don’t confuse me , Apple disclose what the user need to know , like storage size , battery life, weight & size and they spend more time to present what you can do

    Rim can be a serious competitor of iPad, but i don’t think that will be with this device , maybe the next gen

    BB made good mobile for email and messaging, but other than this they are far away from Cupertino and yet everyday Apple eat market share from them ….

    iConcerning Android, this OS will be soon the smartphone of the poor : less app’s , cheap price, thousand of un-usefull feature but i don’t see them being a real leader

    Last : Apple need to have a real competitor in iOs that will push them to be better
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    Personally I think the Playbook announcement can only be great news for the iPad. The prospective release date of 1st quarter 2011 is very close to when a iPad 2G would be released so any killer advantages of the PlayBook over the iPad would presumably be addressed in the 2nd generation iPad.
    One thing that actually puts me off the PlayBook is the size - it's in no man's land - too large for a phone and too small for a truly usable tablet imho. I love the form factor of the iPad but then I guess I am not a true road warrior with it.
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    That is pure opinion, nothing else. Thousands of non useful features? I guess that depends on who you are asking. A lot of this depends on the market you are looking into as well. In the USA I would say Android will become the smart phone of the masses, there is no such thing as a smart phone for the poor when you have to pay $40 a month for a limited data plan. People are tired of being tied to one crappy service provider in the USA as well. Of course, all of this has nothing to do with the Ipad ....
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    Dave did you buy an Android phone ???, i have several in my cabinet if you want i can send you some for good price …


    Concerning the Smartphone of the masses (or poor as you want) , how many people really use more than 12% of the web function in their mobile ???

    The Apple Ios device stay centered in the needing like: keep you busy while you are waiting or on transportation, GPS, music, function

    I know well ATT suck, and i am confident Apple will soon work with other operator in US.

    PS: my opinion is based on my knowledge from 1996 in mobile phone field , witch at that time the Leader is US based company ( Moto, Moto ) but being arrogant and deaf from the market … they go back on the queue i hope Apple will not do the same
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    lol ... I wish you would have asked me that last week before we traded my wife's iPhone in for a Droid 2! I could have used a deal.
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    I don't find the bb that interesting, but I do like the Samsung Tab idea and plan to check it out if Sprint carries it. I see uses for both my iPad and a Tab, so I would not consider the other tablets a real threat - I just want a more portable tablet at times, even though I do carry my iPad with me many places I go.

    Truth is that Apple, BB, and Android all have their die-hard fans, as well as detractors, who will continue to defend them till death do them part, and there are others of us who don't give a hoot about the company or OS and just want to buy whatever tickles our fancy at the time. I think competition is great and in the end it is we consumers who win with awesome products continuously being released. Long live freedom of choice!:D
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    I'll let you know when its actually for sale and I can look at one. Until then, I'll be happily using my iPad. I wish them the best of luck though. Blackberry knows security and thats important to a lot of corporate users.
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    No matter how good it is I would still prefer the larger screen size, especially if it was retina quality.....
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    I would have to say the true advantage the iPad has to all these clones is......YOU CAN BUY ONE!!!

    Everything else is just vaporware until we see one in a store!
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    The other advantage to the iPad here are the apps. Apple's system is heavily supported by quality developers. That's nothing to take lightly in the forthcoming "tablet wars". But I agree with others here in that the form factor is a little small on the Playbook. The small form factor may be a result of running such high speced hardware and trying to keep the battery life manageable. Obviously I don't know that for sure but I don't see any other reason to go with a smaller screen as you're really not saving much space over an ipad when it comes to portability once you factor in all the other junk you need (case, accessories, etc.)

    I do like that BB didn't shy away from Flash, but I hope they give the ability to use it selectively like Android does. I'm not entirely sure if it's an Android thing, or a mobile Flash 10.1 thing; but with Android, while surfing flash content the user has to enable the flash instance as it's encountered. For example, if a web page has a flash ad and a flash video, the user will see two empty spaces with an arrow icon which they can click on to activate the particular Flash application of their choice or ignore them and browse without Flash running.

    Regarding Android, it's actually a pretty cool system. I have a Droid 1 that runs stock Android 2.2 OS (no garbage included from the phone manufacturer) and it really is a feature packed system. It's basically a small computer, complete with an accessible file system. Among other things, they have features available like App Inventor where you can actually create your own fully featured applications and have removed the need to be a programmer to do so. So it's not that Google aren't being clever with Android. The problem is that for most people the Android OS can actually be too complex in some cases and it's definitely not as well marketed or focused at the consumer as Apple's products.

    I think that complexity will allow for Android to be made into a nice tablet OS, something to likely to even replace a laptop, but IMO Android needs to partner with a very solid hardware company and really go all out with their official offerings. To date, the available Android tablets are all hacked together China knock-off hardware with the stock Android OS thrown on them.

    If we can get some good serious competition in the "slate tablet" market it's going to mean better options for us.
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    I have flash on my droid and man it sucks!! So slow!

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