Apple's Print Solution

Discussion in 'AirPrint' started by RAC, Sep 15, 2010.

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    Am I right in assuming that AirPrint will only work with compatible printers?

    Also, it is not clear to me whether it will work with Ethernet printers on a wireless network or only direct to wireless printers.

    AirPrint is all about not having to install printer drivers, correct? I can understand why this would be desirable for "iThings" and I guess it explains the compatibility requirement.
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    Well i think it will only work at wirless printers.
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    An article in MacWorld about 4.2 says:
    Not sure how his helps those with non-HP wireless printers.
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    does anyone know how it discovers available printers?....it would be nice if you could specify an ip or mac address rather than have the device and software try to do a search for the device on your lan....some of the printing software for other mobile devices is "dumbed down" and doesn't allow you to specifiy ip or mac address and it makes discovery problematic
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    It'll work with new HP printers, presumably any wifi printer on a wifi network, or any printer shared on a computer on your wifi.

    Of course, there will still be people whining that it won't work with their 9 pin dot matrix serial printers and that the ipad is rubbish and will fail because of this glearing oversight.
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    Or they have the only printer in the world that somehow uses Flash to print.
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    How about people that have a printer connected directly to their network via Ethernet?


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    Sound like it works just like the print magic app already for sale in the app store. Ken, if your printer is in a network, it should find it and make available to print. You can download a free tester for the print magic app to see if it works with your network.


    I think this is how it will work in air print from Apple.

    Ian B
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    Air Print via wireless lan

    So I'm now confused about this air print in 4.2. I understood the fact that the iPad Air Print will only work with the listed HP wireless printers. But then someone posted that it will also work with a wireless printer on a wireless LAN. Well I have a wireless Canon Printer on my wireless LAN and my iPad can't find it. So did I miss read this or am I doing something wrong?
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    Not quite.

    Airprint will work on a wireless network.
    I just set it up today.
    This is what you need.

    First you need an Apple computer that can either print wirelessly on your network or is plugged into a printer.

    You then need to download and install Printopia on the Mac computer mentioned before (Printopia is $9.99 with a free trial demo.)

    With Printopia running on your Mac you can stream print jobs through the Mac to the printer from your iPad.

    I have an HP 3 in1 non-wireless printer plugged into the USB port of an Airport Express.
    I print wirelessly from my Macbook Pro through the Airport Express to the printer.
    Adding Printopia to my Macbook Pro allowed my iPad to stream print jobs through the Macbook Pro over the network through the Airport Express to the printer.
    This is essentially what Apple said Airprint would do before they changed their minds.

    I`ve printed over this wireless system through my Macbook Pro today very easily from the iPad.
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    You don't need another app nor Mac.

    I don't have the exact thread but its here in this forum (I'm being lazy at the moment). Take a search for 'enable AirPrint" there is a manual method for both Mac and pc. I successfully printed from my canon today after following the setup process
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    Well I guess the rumors about Apple removing the ability to print from non-e printers was true. I was able to print to my WiFi HP printer... but only if I shared it from my Windows PC. This worked in betas 2 and 3 and the first GM. But the final 4.2.1 it no longer works. I can't believe they really did it.

    Damn!


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    Yeah I really didn't want to have to wakeup the laptop to print.
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    I assume you mean the thing where you manually load and then start a service on a windows box? I did that and while my printer is showing on my ipad again, it won't actually print. Might try rebooting but something seems to be getting stuck. I see my printer but when I select it to print the spinning wheel "busy" indicator just spins and spins and then stops. Never prints.

    Oh well. Of course I just bought this HP wireless printer right before the e-print models rolled out. Typical of my luck lol.




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    Did you getvthe firewall message, do you have a passcode on your windows login? Try creating a guest account...that worked for me, then the printer actually started communicating with the iPad


    Oh and sad thing is pc has to be on and awake...which defeats purpose but yeah
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    Thanks.

    I didn't get the firewall message.... at least not at first. I had to manually start the airprint app on my pc and that forced a firewall popup. Once cleared all is well.

    I do need to enter my username/password but I print so rarely it is not an issue. Not worth opening up a guest account with no password. My PCs are locked down tight.

    Thanks again.


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    It is still unclear how AirPrint to operate. I have a iMac wireless connected to my Netgear wired and wireless router. My HP network printer is also connected to the router using an ethernet cable. They work correctly. My iPhone 4 is connected to the router using wi-fi at home. The AirPrint cannot detect my printer at all. However, I download a demo version of Printopia and it works correctly. Can someone explain in detail how AirPrint operate. Is there any official technical explanation of AirPrint? All explanations are too simple to introduce it.
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    Without "help", Airprint will only "see" the supported printers. "Help" comes in the form of something running on a PC or a Mac that makes that computer's shared printer "look like" a supported Airprint printer. An "Airprint server", if you will. Printopia is one of these, and works fine.
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    However, that is allot of effort and some of us use other operating systems. It seems to me that everyone that uses Pages would want to be able to print to their printer. Then again, I am old and perhaps my ideas are far too silly.

    Not to pitch a complaint at Apple, but they specifically talk about how the iPad is a great business tool. And . . . they specifically mention how you can easily print to a wireless printer using WiFi. Not all that true but not entirely a fib, either.

    I have tried several workarounds, but still, I can't print directly from Pages. Seems to me, any platform served up to the public as a grand business tool should be able to print to any modern WiFi enabled printer without all the fuss and bother and more cash sent to the Apple Money Factory.

    Pages is a word processor and any wp that does not allow you to print is often worthless.

    Then again, I am old and not as geeky as I once was.

    Bob Maxey

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