I'm sure that this post will get lots of "hate" replies and flames, but after being here a while and listening to Apple Fans elsewhere (including family members), I just was wondering ....

Why do Apple "people" seem to be so arrogant and derogatory to everything. I have owned Macs, iPhones, iPods (from the first version to the touch), Windows PCs, Palm Phones, WinMo Phones, Android Phones, Laptops, Netbook, Blackberries, Apple Newton and the iPad and usually belong to forums for any device I own.

What I notice about forums for Apple devices is that many of the members have a sense of superiority about themselves and the almighty Apple products. They are always reluctant to say anything good about any product not made by Apple, and usually rip it to shreds. I can honestly say that I don't see that in forums for other devices I currently use. And I do vist those forums consistently also. I might not post much, but I read all the time.

And -- this forum is definitely the one I would be most hesitant to post in. I mean ... I do love my iPad, and my iPod Touch, but I can admit that other companies make good products ... I can also admit, god forbid, that Apple does make mistakes in both their products and their business practices.

I just don't understand the "blind devition" and almost cult-like behavior of many Apple users.

Well ... thanks for taking the time to read my little rant ... and it does feel good to get that off my chest.

Enjoy ....

hm...agree.

Love iDevices but you'll pry my Windows 7 laptop from my cold, dead hands. Apple does needs to chill out.

I'm a member here, and read other apple related forums as well. And I'm also a member at a Blackberry themed forum. The BB owners are the same way. Part of human nature i guess. Take away devices and substitute sports teams, and it's a similar mentality at times for some. Nothing wrong with it really, just people like their products I guess. Whereas someone like yourself or me may not get so emotional and defensive about a product or company's products, I wouldn't tell others to not be that way. But in my experience blind loyalty is not exclusive to Apple or any company.

Love my iPad, can't imagine not having it. But I've tried iMac computers twice in the past and both times went back to PC. Love my new touchscreen Win7 PC. I don't care who makes a product as long as it is well made and suits my needs.

It's brand devotion at it's worst. Sadly, it does little good to argue, as you will get swarmed. Ive seen it here, as well as other places.

I agree, I've been using Apple computers for 3 to 4 years. And got the 1st gen iPod Touch and about to get an iPad. But some Apple fans are in your face about the Apple greatness and it does get annoying. Because everyone associates that will all of us, but we aren't all that arrogant about Apple. We just enjoy using a good, stable product. I will always own an Apple computer because I think it's an easy product to use. But I also use Bootcamp on my MacBook and have a Windows XP partition for the few programs I need to use for school classes.
I also view and post at an Android related forum, I own a Moto Droid. And I think that group is close to or worse than the Apple group. They say bad things about the iPhone but yet there custom themes and icons are iPhone clones. So theres obviously something they like.
Overall there are going to be die hard fans for everything, be it electronics or sports teams.

Injust love gadgets. If it works and it's fun, then full speed ahead. Oh, yea, it's good to get some work done every now and then too.

For some people Apple is a religion - and there have been wars about the right religion.

I have used PCs a lot and I learned hating Windows for it's crashes and bluescreens. I was used to re-install my PC at least once per year to have a fast PC. Things I haven't experienced with any Apple computer so far. But also Mac have flaws and sometimes even the so sacred Mac needs some maintainance.

Windows 7 is very well made and works pretty stable. The first Windows version since years, which is good again. I still have found some issues, but ok. Apple's big advantage is, that they have a closed environment, where they control both sides of the game, hard- and software. That makes things easier for them.

Microsoft instead has to take care of the zillion of hardware manufacturers, which makes the job pretty tough. And there are some pretty awesome products out there for windows.

But still - I am an Apple adict and love their products, because of the well thought products and features. There is always room for improvement, but Apple is most of the time quiet close to the top of the game.

My concern is, that Apple is getting more and more powerful and will control more and more, what the user is going to get for his bucks. The are in control and in charge of content and data and how you can access it. 1984 is becoming reality, more and more.

What Microsoft has become for the commercial and business market, Apple will become for the SoHo market/user. That is what scares me.

Apple was cool and innovativenso far, now they are cool, innovative and dangerous.
Peoples freedom is going to vanish, if we aren't carefully enough.

my answer to this section ..people here made fun of the post about cameras on the ipad and they where saying my tinfoil cap was on a little to tight ..but in this world can you really be sure that you are safe from a outside world comeing into your home life by someone whos is intent is to do you or your family harm by spying on them as they get undress and post or sale the pictures of the underage females or males of the familys getting undress or dressed ..so remember something that might start out as a good thing can be turned into a instrunment of evil in which it can take away a person rights and freedoms away ..

these are my personal thoughts about the somethings and not meant to be uncivil to the poster or the other posters here ..

Col sir you are right when it comes to many things that people take to the outermost limit in good sense and good taste at times.
but most people can not or will not take any form of constructive criticism of there ideas about products or people or sports or car etc etc.. as long as we can do the post in a civil manner i do not have a problem with talking to each other about what our own personal ideas about things are in this life..
by the way did you tell your mother today happy mother day and give a kiss and a hug for haveing you ..

Well, although I haven't experienced it in this forum yet....sometimes.

One common example:

Q: I wish it had flash like my PC. A bunch of websites don't work.
A: You idiot, Flash is bad, slow, eats battery and crashes my Mac! Its old fashioned and only stupid lazy developers use it.

Again, not yet on THIS forum that I've seen, and I hope it stays that way.

Apple the company does sometimes things that help only Apple the company and not necessarily ME personally as a user of Apple products. The true fanboy seems to prefer Apple over the individual users. In that way, it is like a religion.

Another example is multitasking. Back when we wanted it and it wasn't available, fanboys made us feel inferior just for suggesting it. Now that it is coming, everyone just praises Apple for the superior implementation and foresight. Huh?

an excellent example, and one that we can use to test ourselves.

We can all judge ourselves on examples like that. objectively.
If our opinion shifts, when Apple makes a change, and our opinion was as different as that, well then . . . "We might just be an 'Apple Fanboy'"


I guess if you jailbreak, then you are not a fanboy, . . . maybe.
It at least shows unwillingness to settle for a situation just because Apple says so.

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[FONT=&quot]Although I still don't think the iPad is perfect and I am not simply an Apple Fanboy, what I am excited about is the fact that Apple is one of the few bright lights of innovation, ingenuity and vision in the market these days; plus, you simply can't hold an Apple device without being amazed at the design effort they put into it. They perform better than any system I've every used and they are beautiful to look at and hold.[/FONT]

I agree Sprank1, It's not in my nature to search for trouble and burn bridges. I prefer the option of enjoying the best I can find, whomever makes it. Nit picking is not worth it, it's more productive to find solutions around the restrictions different devices are built with.

This forum I've liked from the start because of the way the majority behaves. Of course you must accept a certain exuberance around the iPad, it's so new...

It's fanboi

on another forum ..i made the comment about useing my ipad as replacement for my laptop and the apple haters came out of the wall and was jumping up and down on my thread about the ipad..

here is what one person said about the ipad .

here is the one statement the guy made about the ipad ..

he said that this statement ..so all the stupid people who go out and buy the ipad ..here something for you it called the irock and posted this picture.on the website that i was on ..

Really, IMHO, this is one of the most open minded forums I have been on. We have a lot of windows, web-os, android, etc users as well as apple users. If you feel this forum is filled with Apple fanboys, why do you come here?

While I agree that there are plenty of people who are Apple fanatics, I think there are a lot more Apple haters out there. I find these haters to be far more annoying than the fanboys.

You mentioned that you have seen behavior from fanboys on Apple related sites that you have not seen on competitors sites. I find that very hard to believe since every Apple related site I have been on has haters. They must not visit the sites related to the products they like .

That is the main reason I ended up here. After the iPad was announced, I wanted to discuss it with people who were interested in it. Every thread or article I saw related to the iPad was full of posts/comments saying that anyone who would even consider buying this piece of crap is just an idiot Apple fanboy. I can't say I have ever seen an Apple fanboy on a MS site, for example, spouting BS about MS users. I just don't understand the mentality that would cause someone to visit a site for a product they are not interested in just to harass people that are interested in it.

Right on. Nobody has even flamed me about my sig yet.