What is the BEST Tablet To Buy?

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    The only tablet I own is an iPad. I'm pretty confident I know this device pretty well. Lately, I've noticed many discussions about the iPad iOS versus the Android. These discussions have piqued my curiosity. I recently got my bonus and after my bills have been paid, my budget issues resolved, and funding for future vacations banked, I have US$500 to "play" with. I want to get me an Android OS tablet so that I can see for myself what all the hubbub is with Android.

    What would YOU consider to be the best and most formidable android competitor to the new generation 16gig wifi plus 4g(?) iPad?
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    You will most likely need to wait for the new line of Galaxy tabs to come out. I would say issues set aside that the Transformer Prime is the only real competitor. However, it is not 4G LTE ready. So I would say wait for the new Galaxy or the Transformer Infinity Tab which is said to have 4G available when released. Both should be summer sometime.
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    No doubt about it in my mind. The Samsung galaxy tablet. Either the 10.1 or the 8.9, which is honestly sorta cool and a more interesting size.....but there is supposed to also be a new galaxy tablet coming out, soon. But I have been using the iPad for awhile and like it, just the file transferring and such is annoying to me to no end, and well....it is way more expensive too. But this is a iPad forum, so out of respect, I'll say 'other than a iPad' I'd do with the Samsung galaxy for sure.
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    Shakes fist at Seneca for beating his response while he was typing it.
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    Thanks for your quick replies. Based on what you both indicated, I found this list that showed all of the tablets available. Some on the list I've never heard of and some of them, from Lenovo, Toshiba, and Sony, I didn't know those companies ventured into the tablet space. I learn something new everyday!

    http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105...ng-tablets/?tag=contentBody;contentHighlights

    After perusing this list, how come one manufacturer can offer various sizes of tablets and different versions of Andriod? For example, Archos offers, Android, Honeycomb, and Ice Cream Sandwich. Are all three OS compatible? If you buy an app for one model and a different version of Android, can you use the same app for another model but on a Honeycomb? When the new Samsung model comes out in the summer time, will all of Samsung's tablets be offered the same version software?

    Admittedly, my questions are based on my experience with the iPad. No wonder, Android people feel like they have choices, but with so many choices, how can you find which one is right for you?
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    I have the first Asus Transformer and in contrast to my iPad it doesn't run very smoothly. Lots of annoying lag when writing (to the point where I refused to use it to write forum posts, so I never got to use the external keyboard much, awesome idea though and I quickly got an external keyboard for my iPad), crashes, mis-rendered sites, slow loading sites etc.

    I also never really got into apps because I couldn't find any. The android market can't (couldn't?) do tablet searches. Got a few smartphone apps that looked really ugly. There are indirect ways to find tablet apps though (search on "honeycomb" or check lists on the net etc), but there really are much fewer high-quality apps available. On the iPad otoh my biggest problem is almost going crazy from all the suberb apps I can't choose between.
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    What you just indicated is one of my beefs and main issue with Android right now. Developers have to make apps compatible with many versions of Android software and hardware. I would only look at tablets that are running Honeycomb or ICS as those are true tablet OS's. I haven't heard much about the sony tablets but I would stay away from the others, you will be very disappointed in those after using an iPad for so long.
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    Your post asks what is the best tablet to buy. Technically, IMHO, you already own it. Until Microsoft comes out with their mobile OS for tablets, you are stuck with Android if you want somthing other than an iPad. I have found Android to be an acceptable, but limited OS for smartphones. For a tablet, it lacks a lot of what is needed to be competitive. Again, my opinion. As far as brands go, I would stick with Samsung or Asus. I would try out as many of them as possible, and for as long as possible.
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    Well, they are all different versions of android OS. Honeycomb is 3.0, ICS is 4.0. You can load ICS for instance on the galaxy tablet 10.1 or 8.9. I have to admit I haven't tried the ASUS. It may be better, but I say go out and buy one from a place that has a good return policy of like 30. Days. This isn't a small amount of money....you should see what you like. With my Samsung galaxy tab, I use amazons kindle service....thousands of ebooks, many of which for free. The first month you sign up, you get free premium for a month which allows thousands more ebooks to 'borrow' for free, as well as free movie stream/etc. and you can plug it into your computer, and upload files to it. Movie files, pictures, whatever files you want, even use it as a 32 GB USB storage between different computers. Go ahead give me a try. And make a choice. I have to say, I like how thenipad runs....it is just other things that are s annoying to me. I hate proprietary stuff first of all.....it stifles creativity and tinkering to me. And if I lay down $800 for something I wanna do whatever I want to it...It is mine after all.....and people say things like "it isn't a pc, you can't expect it to be!" we'll, whatever....but it costs more then a pc, so I think it should do a darn lot. We are talking 2-3 car payments for the ave. person here.....
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    If you want one now I say consider the Asus TF300. It is a lower cost version of the Prime that has a non-metal housing, so all the internal antennas work and wifi range is better and faster compared to the Prime (but the screen is not as good). But personally I would wait for one of the tabs with the 1080p screens to show up this summer.

    Also, for Android tablets that are thin, you end up with issues, from a usability standpoint, because those ports and a thin tablet don't really go together well. Lots of people don't like to mention the "dirty" aspects of ownership after they have paid their money because they want to feel good about their purchase. Considering this, The Acer brand is best because they are a bit thick and heavier, but the ports on the sides mesh into a flat surface rather than a curved one. I could consider the Acer A510, assuming I were to buy now. Acer should be offering a 1080p version this summer, too.

    The downside to all Android tablets other than the kindle fire is that getting support will be a royal pain in the backside. Amazon is the only tablet maker that has a chance of matching the total ownership experience that Apple provides to its customers. And don't expect good resale value from any of the Android tabs.

    Frankly, I own both iOS and Android tablets (Acer A500, Amazon Kindle Fire, and I had a Nook Color but gave it away). I don't find the addition of ports to be such a big deal. And I'm a digital hoarder in the sense that I own lots and lots of storage. I'm willing to bet that GB for GB, I'm in the top % of people here in terms of total storage owned. All of the port issues have easy workarounds. I think it is really sad that ICS is so scarce, as it has been out for a while. You'd think all tab makers would be rushing to get it on all of their tablets, but that's not happening. Too many cooks in the kitchen, if you ask me. It makes for a totally messy situation.
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    In regards to your question about choices. What do you do when you are in supermarket looking on bags of chips?. Do you go home without buying any because you had "too many choices" or you make decision and buy one that you like most.
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    i have both i pad 1 and galaxy tab and i prefer galaxy tab by far android is much better than ios.
    all apple products are silly and have many limitations and i wonder why people still buying i pad and i phone.
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    Honestly having both I wouldn't recommend buying an android tablet except in two situations.

    1: you have need for a laptop'ish device with physical keyboard. In that case I'd recommend a Asus Transformer.

    2: buy a 'midsize' tablet. Check out the new Samsung 7.0Plus a $250 tablet that supports the full android experience unlike a kindle fire or nook tablet. You'll find that the portability of the smaller size is a HUGE benefit.

    If you buy a full size android tablet I feel you will be disappointed in the app select like noted above. It is very sad considering how great iPad apps are.


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    That's any easy answer andrzejls. When I go to the supermarket to buy a bag of chips, I have three choices: 1) potato based (Pringles), 2) corn based (Fritos), 3) wheat based (Giordanos). Then I have to choose what flavor: "regular" or bar-b-que or sea salt and garlic, or Parmesean, etc. Once I choose it is easy enough to buy that bag of chips. Even if I didn't care for my selection, I can throw the bag of chips away.

    On the other hand, buying a tablet and walking out of the store with out first researching and logging on to forums like this one and asking for in depth guidance on 'the best non-iPad' tablet to buy is as the saying goes, a pound of potatoes foolish and a bag of chips wise. ehhh?
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    Trying very hard not to be iPad centric, I'm really curious about the iPad alternatives and learning what the difference is between the two. Sea dog, you mentioned the new Windows 8 tablet coming towards the end of 2012, I saw on the list I linked to, that Lenovo was going to offer a Windows based tablet, according to that list, this tablet would be over US$1000! I'm wondering if that tablet and that OS would give users the ability to migrate their Windows knowledge to the use of that tablet?
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    Maybe if you where buying a $500 bag of chips that you would be eating for 2 years you might consider doing a bit more research on it's pros and cons before you just put one in the basket?
    Just saying....
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    Windows is moving away from the OS so many people are familar with. For Apple users, it will be like the move from OS 9 to OS X, a dramatic change. If what I write seems a little awkward, my apologies, but there is a lot of information out there.

    Apple: When Apple developed the iPhone, they created iOS to work with it. They also had been working on the iPad for almost a decade, so they knew it was in the pipeline. Therefore, they designed iOS with the ability to move to a larger format. Decades of experience with minimalist screen design worked for them in developing iOS. With iTunes already a big thing with the iPods, it was easy to decide to go with the app approach rather than widgets. Apple also recognized that one of the headaches of computer systems was the risk of downloading software from the internet. That was a main reason they went with a closed system. Apple is a control freak, but in some ways that works to our advantage. You do not need a lot of visible security at a beach party, but you want it at a nuclear power plant. Where your mobile device fits between those two extremes, can vary very much, depending on personal opinion.

    Microsoft: I do not know a lot about Win 8 yet, but it will be designed from the beginning for those who use Windows and are familar with it. Microsoft's approach is different. They will have a mobile OS and a desktop OS. Where they differ from Apple and Google, is they are going to make the tablet version a derivative of the desktop OS. The idea is that people are fustrated with the lack of being able to use MS Office with their tablets and want a more full featured experience. In theory, it sounds good. The problem is that the system will require a much more powerful processor, lots more storage, and other amenities. My personal thought is that tablets are not ready for that and battery life will suffer. It will be interesting to see how it plays out. I doubt that it will be a neutral subject. I forsee some of people loving it, while others hate it. It will probably be geared to commercial users, and be too expensive for the average person. My big concern is that MS will leverage their lock on business and government users with MS Office. If they make Win 8 the only way to get Office on a tablet, they could force a lot of companies to forgo other devices. However, MS has lots of experience with skirting anti-monopoly laws and could bring out a iOS version that is just enough to keep the regulators at bay. I would also expect that MS will maintain a locked down OS for security reasons. At the very least, expect apps to require a security certificate before they can be downloaded or used.

    Google: When the smartphones began to hit the market, Google wanted to become a big player. Without any real experience in designing operating systems, they decided to take an old free universal OS base (Java) and make it into a mobile system. Java is a very old format designed for web use, and not the easiest program to use. And not every needed component was included under the open license provisions. While Sun Microsystems was not interested in patent protection, Oracle has bought them out, and they are interested in receiving patent royalties from Google. Google is gaining on OS development, but it is like updating a mobile home. You can do a lot, but you still are going to have a poor foundation that is not going to hold up in a crises. One thing that I really dislike about Android, is that in many cases, if you buy a device, you will not be able to use another version of Android. Plus the Android experience is different on each device, because the OS has to be modified for each device manufacturer. A few other items: Android devices usually use 16:9 screens as opposed to the 4:3 iPads. Great for watching videos, but poor for most everything else. Plus, you can have a larger rated screen that has less area. A 10.1" screen at 16:9 is almost 10% smaller than the iPad 9.7". My biggest gripe is that you do not have a central ecosystem to deal with. With iPads, Apple takes care of software and hardware issues. If you have a problem, it is easier to find a dedicated repair person for the iPad than for any other tablet. With the Android, or other similar devices, if you have a problem, you can get into a tangle between software and hardware. What do you do with an open device that crashes due to an app you downloaded? It is not as bad as it used to be, but I remember the early days when you might have several vendors to deal with and no one would take responsibility for failures. It was like buying a car and the engine, transmission, radio, tires, and bumpers all had to be handled by their own vendors. It was those types of problems that lured me to Apple twenty years ago. It is much better now, but there are still issues with a lack continuity between software and hardware.

    This is just my way of seeing the issues between the three main competitors in the tablet market. If I was Google, I would be working on an OS that does not use Java as a base. However, I do not think that Google has the ability to make the long term commitment needed to make it happen.
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    Wow, Seadog, I think you earned your title of SUPER moderator today. Your insight is very helpful and makes a lot of sense. With your comment I have a better understanding of how we all have arrived at this juncture. I'll certainly keep your words in mind as I try to find that worthy Android based iPad competitor. Or for that matter, Windows based tablet.
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    This is not like buying a bag of chips, nor is what he is doing an impulse buy. MattlM is making a decision to broaden his knowledge and he apparently is doing his research. If he can do so without financial fuss, I see no reason to be negative. You want to talk impulse purchases, I once went to see about trading in a 83 Crown Vic on a newer sedan. I saw a 87 Dodge Daytona on the showroom and fell in love with it. I love the car, but traded it in before it hit 50,000 miles. Windshield replaced, power steering replaced, dead mouse removed from vent system, windshield and all windows replaced, and repainted three times. After all that, I gave up and moved on. The young couple that bought the car had more luck. It outlasted their marriage vows.
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    Agree with Seadog. We have seen plenty of people (even on this forum) who purchased an iPad before researching the capabilities against their wants and needs only to find out it doesn't meet their criteria, then for some reason decide to blame the device.

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