So, I got to try the competition out

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  1. DaveSt

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    First off, this is NOT meant to be a "iOS vs. Android" or "Apple vs. The World" thread, just my impressions.

    I friend of mine just received an Archos 70 tablet (see link below) and knowing that I have an Ipad he asked if I would like to use it for a bit to get my impressions.

    http://www.archos.com/products/ta/archos_70it/index.html?country=us〈=en

    Since there has been a lot of speculation about Android tablets around here I thought I would give my impressions after a few hours of use.

    My first comment when I picked up the device was "You're telling me this thing only cost $250?". The build quality is pretty good, but certainly much more plastic feeling than the Ipad. The front facing stereo speakers are a nice touch and much better sounding than what the Ipad has. The device is super thin and light and is almost the exact same size as a Kindle.

    Moving on the the device features, it has only 8GB of memory, but the real beauty is that it has an integrated micro-SD slot as well as a mini-USB port. I was able to mount both external hard drives and USB memory sticks with no issues at all. I could use multiple micro-SD cards as well. I have to admit, the external storage capability gave me more than a twinge of jealousy. I only tried playing music and movies from the devices, but the performance was fine. There is also a HDMI-out port.

    The interface on the device is fantastic. Multi-tasking is enabled from the start and works in much the same way it does on iOS 4.x devices. Desktop widgets are supported (I tried stock ticker and weather widgets). Full access to system functions is available (full view and control of system processes for example). Interactive / animated wallpapers are supported which are kind of neat but probably not something I would use long term. The device is multi-touch, so pinch zooming and everything I was used to with iOS works almost the same way.

    The device is able to run Flash with some exceptions. Believe it or not, the device did not turn into a pile of melted plastic when running web based Flash content. I could not perceive any noticeable slow down when viewing Flash content either. The Android 2.1 OS does not seem to support Flash 10.1 content however, so there are still things that don't work. Also, Hulu blocks access from Android based devices so you still cannot view their content (they are working on a "premium" app" for Android which explains that).

    Web browsing on the 7" screen was surprisingly good. I missed the extra vertical space the Ipad gives me, but besides that browsing was easy and fast. The marketplace isn't as well organized as the App Store, but it isn't the nightmare I had come to expect from the rantings I have seen at various (mainly Apple centered) sites.

    Overall, I found the device to be very nice which was a surprise to me after hearing so much about how Android based tablets suck. My impressions were quite to the contrary. How much of this has to do with custom Archos additions to Android I cannot say. I still prefer a 10" device honestly but for $250 is is amazing how much you can get. I would love to have a 10" version to play with.
     
  2. Hasty

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    Good review, thanks. The more competition the faster the tablet market will evolve.
    I like the extra storage options but with streaming videos, docs and music, it has ceased to be much of a problem for me. That said apple made a number of compromises to get extended battery life. Did you get any idea how long it lasts in use?
     
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    I'll say it confidently, Android is better than iOS. I love my iPad, but I love Android even more. Unless Apple does something big with the next generation iPad, I'll be picking up an Android based tablet before the end of next year. But I'll continue to enjoy my iPad until another tablet comes out that really catches my attention, so far none have made me want to switch.
     
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    I agree with you about competition being good for the consumer. I hope Apple adds some of these features to the next Ipad (and a camera which I forgot to mention the Archos has).

    The battery life is very similar to that of the Ipad. If I can trust the battery meter I would estimate about 10 hours of video play. I did quite a bit of Wi-Fi surfing and general playing around with it as well. Of course, the smaller screen probably helps in that area.
     
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    $299 will get you the 10 inch archos. they'll be back in stock on the 18th.

    from the reviews i've seen the only things i dislike are the navigation buttons are on the screen so they cover some of the display on apps. the other is the non-removable battery. even non-rooted, i've had apps lock up my evo and only a battery pull would fix it. it'll be a pain to wait 8+ hours for the battery to drain to free up your device.
     
  6. gentlefury

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    Sadly the problem with Android is that initial impressions are GREAT and very impressive. I really loved my droid when I first got it....but as you settle into it it gets more and more tedious and less and less intuitive. With my iPad the longer I've used it to the more I've come to love it....I freakin hate my droid now and want to smash it against a wall most days. Plus Android updates are OTA...so if they have an update that takes away your root status you either have to do it or have a popup every 15 mins reminding you there is an update...whether you want it or not...it is so damned annoying it is barely tolerable!!

    Sad thing is the only reason I even have my Droid rooted is because at stock the CPU is downclocked to such an unbelievably slow rate that its almost painful to operate....so it must stay rooted to keep it at a useable pace.....also I get MUCH better battery life since it downclocks to below spec when not in use.

    Overall sadly the Android OS is horrible compared to iOS!
     
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    I disagree, I find the Android OS to get better and smoother as I learn more about it.

    The Archos 101 might be a good competitor for the iPad, but I'm concerned with it's lack of 3G capability. Perhaps a USB 3G device would work with it though.
     
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    i disagree also. at first i didn't like the android os, but the more i used it the better it got. i like not having to go to multiple locations to adjust settings/prefs of some apps. why do i have to go to settings to change a preference in an application instead of just changing it in the app?

    the multiple physical buttons are a plus also, though sbs does increase the function of the home button.

    the best thing ios has for it actually is the way it's locked down. hardware has to meet a certain quality standard as well as apps. i just bought a $150 sylvania tablet... pure garbage. but then again the choice to buy a crap tablet could be a plus. i sure wouldn't want to buy my daughter a $500 device to use right now.

    as for droid oc'ing there really isn't that much difference in performance from 600 to 1300mhz. it's mainly the customizations that increased the performance. without benchmarks it's really not a big difference since there's not really much that actually taxes the processor anyways. games get a slight boost, but since my gpu didn't get oc'ed not much increased. flash, however, did get a boost. at 600mhz it was running faster than the iphone which used the same processor downclocked to 550. that said, my droid did 1300 without problems but i kept it at 800 for daily use.

    neither my rooted droid or evo ever forced me to update. and i never had any pop ups. i did force a download of the droid update to stop it's accessing the network, but didn't have to install it since my custom recovery disallowed it.
     
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    Well you are wrong, my droid is unusable under 800 MHz.
     
  10. hookbill

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    I think both OS has their plusses and minuses but I think the reason the OP opened this thread was not to discuss which OS was better but to discuss the differences of iPad vs Android Tablet.

    My only beef with the iPad so far is no multitasking. I personally don't need flash.

    OP if you're still around does the tablet have 2.2 Froyo Operating System?
     

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