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Discussion in 'iPad General Discussions' started by Trent McNair, Apr 28, 2011.

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    I am considering a purchase of a new iPad 2, but one of the reasons I have forgone the purchase of an iPad was that it had no Flash support.

    How is the browsing experience with no Flash support? And, why would I want to invest in an iPad 2 if I can only experience a percentage of the internet?
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    Oh please. Someone hide this thread quickly :D

    Searching for 'Flash' on this forum will lead you to the results you want and prevent this topic from trailing off into a flame war. Flash is the most hotly debated topic.
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    For me the browsing is great. I don't notice the lack of Flash. Others seem to miss it. Feel free to install a Flash blocker on your normal computer and test it out for yourself rather than relying on someone else's experiences, though. That's what I did a year ago and I still have the Flash blocker installed.
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    Flash. Well ~ at least you are doing some research before you buy. I have had my iPad for almost a year and I go to lots of sites. Not once have I been not able to, actually ~ that is not true. Once, it told me "this device doesn't support Flash" I forget what site it was.

    You must remember the ipad is not a computer. Ask yourself what you plan on doing with it ~ why you want an iPad.

    And research Flash here and read and read.

    Others will chime in to help ~ just remember that flash is a sensitive topic here....
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    Having said this: Which you two beat me to it ~

    We are all going to be very respectful and helpful to Mr. Trent McNair, simply because he has not bought his iPad yet and needs guidance. This is a good thing:)
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    Then don't open the thread. Okay? Be careful.
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    I did that initially - probably should have done the search by post title instead of the 'flash' flood of results I got by doing a thread search. Got tired of sifting through them quickly, so here I am with this topic. Foot, mouth, the whole shebang.
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    Well Trent ~ hopefully some of our more productive members will enlighten you. We shall see how this thread goes.
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    A flash work-around:
    http://www.ipadforums.net/ipad-apps...pad-doesnt-have-flash-heres-way-feel-joy.html
    General discussion on flash:
    http://www.ipadforums.net/ipad-gene...jobs-flash-explanation-doesnt-make-sense.html
    Another discussion on flash:
    http://www.ipadforums.net/ipad-general-discussions/23613-adobe-flash.html

    Whether you need flash, depends on the sites you frequent. Personally, have I only come across two websites which wouldn't work, due to flash, but I can't mention them here.

    Flash can be easily replaced by HTML5, if it is just used as a container file for videos. If that is what you usually browse, then browsing will work fine on the iPad. What will not work, are flash based interactive websites, as those are more difficult to convert to html5.
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    I've often wondered by the brilliant programmers here haven't created some sort of nifty little program that will recognize the "F" word in a subject line (or message) and automatically reroute the thread to the many existing threads on the same topic. Redundancy avoidance.
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    Not really a scientific proof, but the iPhone got first released 4 years ago and it had no flash. The fact that Apple has made no attempt to get flash on their iOS devices should tell something: it isn't necessary.

    More then 160million iOS devices have been sold so far and all without flash.
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    Well Aspasia, my apologies. I did read through a thread and I will be looking at others.

    The mere fact that this isn't the first thread on the subject may leave you peeved, but it should also tell you that perhaps the gripe has some merit.

    If I were allergic to peanuts, I wouldn't eat peanuts. I'd always make sure that anyone preparing my food would also never add a peanut. But what would you have me do if almost every type of food had peanuts in it? Tell me to quit eating? Tell me to survive on water?

    Flash is just a peanut. Never have I had a problem with it. I see it everywhere I go on the net. Depriving me of something I don't seem to have an allergy to seems silly. Beating me about the face and head with an iPad won't change that.

    Still on the fence...I'll keep reading. :D
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    No flash is a pain in the ass, Trent. Two of my favorite things use flash. (1) CBS Gametracker tool that shows status of college games I follow. (2) The listen over the Internet ability for my local AM radio station. Yes, there is a workaround for each (iSwifter browser that supports flash) but it sucks.
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    The only thing I want flash for is videos. Anything else with flash just bogs your computer down, and in tablets it will drain the battery. I really hate flash advertisements.

    YouTube videos play great on the iPad, and any website that uses html5. As for other sites that aren't compatible, I like to use the splashtop iPad app to log into my Windows 7 pc and view that website remotely... It works great.
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    In more than a year living without Flash I haven't found it to be so prevalent that it would constitute "...almost every type of food...." In fact, the vast, vast majority of the places I see that little Flash placeholder on my PC are advertisements. I do see it elsewhere, but not very frequently.

    As for the rest of your analogy, if I ran a restaurant that included peanuts as part of the cuisine I'd simply post something at the door telling everyone with peanut allergies to go elsewhere. That's what Jobs has done by publicizing that iOS devices don't support Flash. No one needs to be surprised by not having it so they can make up their own minds about whether or not it's particularly important by doing their research. Testing a browser with Flash blocked for your daily browsing is probably the single best way to determine whether it's an issue for you, though it's not foolproof since some sites apparently recognize iOS devices and supply their content in different ways so the Flash blocker is likely to show a slightly worse case than the iPad.
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    No need for any apologies, Mr. McNair. I'm not at all peeved and my comments weren't really directed at you but towards the subject as a whole.

    While I'm relatively new here, I've read enough threads on the topic to realize they turn into heated exchanges for the most part. Worse, there are some folks who buy iPads without any research and then proceed to bitterly attack Apple because it refuses to support Flash, as well as anyone who defends the absence of Flash.

    I think there are two schools: those who believe they can't "experience" the Internet without it, and those who don't even notice it's missing.

    You will discover that by researching and reading the threads, as suggested by Sweet Poison. If you do so, you'll also come across a link setting forth Steve Jobs' thoughts about Flash. It's a good read.
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    Could someone please direct me to the referred "link setting forth Steve Jobs' thoughts about Flash?"

    Thanks
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    I found at first the no Flash experience to be quite a pain because there are some sites that have Flash that I need to use.
    I found Puffin Browser to be quite sufficient to meet the needs. Be warned your battery life will suffer when using it.
    I am also finding more and more sites that will re render to whatever the iPad uses than when I first got my iPad1 and I've only had mine since the week they announced the ipad2 was coming out ( I waited because I got a very nice discount by waiting)
    I'm also finding more and more apps for what I used to use the browser for as well, especially news, shopping, sports,etc. I even found myverizon this evening to keep track of my cell phone account, another website I won't need anymore. Next I'll be looking for apps for my banks and Bill Oreilly



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    SweetPoison, thank you for the respectful and graceful way that you responded to this particular thread. Everyone here knows that this could have gone south very quickly. You handled this perfectly. On a less serious note... This thread is scheduled for demolition in... 10, 9, 8...
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