Thanks guys for responding! @ twerppoet how did your Logitech charging port break is this a fragile design flaw? I actually prefer being able to plug in a lightening cable to the Logitech vs how the Apple Pencil Gen 1 charges plugging directly into an iPad thus sticking out the side... my wife would never go for that nor would I. Also the Apple Pencil Gen 1 if I understand correctly doesn't actually shut off so is always discharging the battery when not in use. I do like the idea of having an on/off switch and an auto off after several minutes so that's why the Logitech and Alternatives would be the best fit for my wife. I'm always thinking what will be the easiest for her and a Pencil that can be charged via Lightening or USB C cable fits the bill since she has an iPad Mini 5 and Pixel 3. Myself I'll be getting the Gen 2 for my iPad Pro 2018 so I don't have to mess with any of that. I do see some of the Alternatives are now charging with USB C instead of an older connection (Micro USB?) so that's an improvement. So would you still recommend the Logitech over the other Clones... I do wonder about the former's short battery life? Also the fact that I don't think the Logitech shows how much time is remaining but maybe none do. I didn't notice until I started looking at the lengths of these pencils up to 8" or so... doesn't that fill a little awkward in hand compared to a pen or pencil? Why so long?