New Ipad Owner Here - Greetings to All!

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  1. Robs58

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    Hello Everyone,

    Am so glad to have found this forum and would like to say my introductory "Hello" to all of you!

    About me:

    Dallas, TX is home
    Am first time Ipad owner (Air 2)
    Enjoy talking about Ipad techie subjects
    Am excited to be here!

    I do have a question:

    In the best interests of making sure that my question gets routed to the most appropriate forum/sub-forum,
    where should I post the following question:

    "I am interested in finding out what is a very good IOS data wiping program so as to make sure that any
    and all data, such as contacts, notes, files, etc. get permanently wiped from my Ipad. Can anyone
    help me with this? Thanks in advance"

    Best Regards,

    Robs58
     
  2. J. A.

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    Welcome to iPadForums, Robs58!

    There's a built in feature, Erase all Content and Settings, that will take care of any data stored on your iPad.
    You'll find more information in this thread:
    removing info from Ipad
     
  3. Robs58

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    Hello J.A.

    Thank you for replying.

    Yes, I am aware of the native feature installed on Ipads which allow the owner to delete data.

    However, simply "deleting" the data does not really permanently remove it; it only removes indexed references to the data, which means that any and all data that was deleted can easily be recovered by any one of a number of IOS software data recovery programs. This is a very serious privacy/security
    problem that most folks don't know about.

    Stated more fully, I am looking for a recommended IOS Data Wiper/Eraser software that specializes in actually shredding/permanently deleting, forever, any and all data.

    Again, thank you for responding.

    Best Regards,

    Robs58
     
  4. scifan57

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    Welcome to iPad Forums, @Robs58! As you've already seen, our members are willing to help you with any questions or problems you may have.
     
  5. giradman

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    Hi Robs58 - first, welcome to the forum! :) Second, many of us are aware that simple deletion of files often removes only 'pointers' and until the files are 'overwritten', recovery w/ special software is possible. But keep in mind, that Apple has built into iOS protection steps to eliminate that possibility, e.g. look at the quote below from a late 2015 article (Source) - if anything, security has likely improved.

    Now, I've sold two iPads and have used Apple's guidelines in erasing their flash memories - have never used additional security software for that purpose, so I cannot provide any personal experience nor recommendations; however, if you simply google "ios secure data deletion", plenty of hits appear, including one from HERE (home page shown below) - this one is $30 although I'm sure 'free trials' are available - also as stated in the quote, Apple has claimed that their use is misleading. Hopefully, others will respond w/ some more personal experience, but as I upgrade my iPads, I'll simply continue to follow Apple's advice. Dave

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  6. Robs58

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    giradman,

    Thank you for the detailed response!

    All the best,

    Robs58
     
  7. twerppoet

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    It's true that the underlying data is not erased, but it is also true that all data stored on the iPad is encrypted. Apple takes special care to delete all encryption keys when an iOS is reset to factory, making it nearly impossible to retrieve the stored data in a reasonable time frame (years even with a powerful computer).

    I can't claim to understand the underlying technology, but I note that every tech savy blogger I follow seems to think it adequate.

    Note that the FBI spent considerable time trying to get Apple to unlock one of it's older phones, and eventually resorted to buying a hacking tool from a third party to unlock it. If you could access the solid state memory and unscramble it with a tool, none of that would have been necessary. They could have disasembled the iPhone, hooked up (or soldered on) some connections, and accessed the memory directly. But, it's not that easy.

    All the legitimate tools I've seen online to extract or recover data from erased iOS devices rely on either you having the passwords, or on extracting the data from an unencrypted backup.

    Here is Apple's document about iOS security. Perhaps you understand it better than I do, and can point out how to bypass the hardware encryption.

    https://www.apple.com/business/docs/iOS_Security_Guide.pdf

    The one thing I do know is that if it's easy to nab data off a restored iPhone, the securty comunity has been unusually silent on the subject. And the security comunity is not known for silence, especially with Apple.
     
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    Forgot to check for more posts, so I missed this before I replied.
     
  9. Thomas1977

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    Welcome to the forums Robs58. I am a relatively new ipad owner myself.
     
  10. Robs58

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    Many thanks to all who have responded (hoping I didn't forget anyone!)

    Thomas1977 cool! Don't you just love the ipad? Its truly an amazing and time saving device
    on so many levels. Every time I hold it in my hand, I feel like I'm in possession of magic!
     

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