Well I thought I'd give an update just in case anyone else suffers this issue. I went ahead and tried post 9 above and so far so good. Im no longer using iCloud backup but use iCloud for syncing calendars and tasks. After setting up the iPad as new this is working. Im slowly working on doing the same on the other iPad and iPhone. I've deleted and disabled the same on all 3 devices but only the one that got wiped clean and set up as a new device is working. At least I found a solution. Thanks for the help.