wifi hacked by outsider

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    Given up for the present time using ipad, due to wifi being used by someone else not one of the family.
    Since asked in apple shop and was told they would only use wifi short periods of time, wifi can be hacked within 30 minutes.
    As far as i can see using a wifi connection is no longer practical.
    If apple will not produce an ethernet adapter, then what about an ipad holder with wifi built in but reduced signal and screened, pluged into the ethernet.
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    Were you using encrypted WiFi - the encryption key for WiFi cannot be hacked within 30 minutes - if it can I'm sure NSA and MI6 would be pleased to know...

    Tim
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    Yeah, leaving your home wifi network open without password protection is just asking for trouble.

    Recent story had cops busting in and arresting a guy for child porn. Turns out, he had an open wifi network and his neighbor was the one actually downloading the stuff.
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    WPA can be hacked in a rather ahort-time, depending on the length of the password.

    A couple of month ago, someone posted a prove-of-concept of hacking a secured Wifi network within ~20min. The person used a data sniffing tool to capture some transmitted and encrypted data, and than used the Amazon cloud service to run a bruteforce attack on the captured data. A single computer would be too slow to crack the password, but companies such as Amazon let you rent as much computing capacity, as you need. In that test Amazon charged less than 30$ for using their servers to crack the security password.

    That aside, I higly doubt that many people know how to do the above, as it still requires a program to run the bruteforce attack.
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    Have you watched the real hussle program.
    They used a laptop in a van outside and hacked a passord protected wifi and then printed out every site that was accessed.
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    I think it's good to be safe and secure your network with a password.

    I also don't think there's someone sitting in a van outside each and everyone's house ready to break into your network.

    There's security and then there's paranoia.

    Most of us simply aren't important enough to generate much interest by most of the bad guys out there. Sorry to burst your bubble.

    Be safe and secure, but don't be overly paranoid.
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    Well, I can't find the original article anymore and I got a few numbers wrong, too.

    So one more attempt:
    The wifi network was WPA encrypted with a 6-digit key. And it only took Amazon's servers 6min to crack it, at a cost of $0.28/min.

    http://www.livehacking.com/2011/01/11/amazon-ec2-used-to-hack-wi-fi-wpa-now-redundant/

    And here:
    http://threatpost.com/en_us/blogs/cloud-makes-short-work-strong-encryption-111910

    Being paranoid, or not. My password is 30-digits long ;)
    With using cloud computing to run brute-force attacks on WPA passwords, the whole process is relatively simple, takes little time and is cheap. So I wouldn't be surprised if people use this simply to avoid paying for internet.
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    Doesn't a hardwired connection completely frustrate the whole tablet concept? Tablets are light, portable devices you can wander around with - at least that's my view but I bet 99.99999% of buyers agree. I guess you could limit yourself to a 3G connection, but it's going to be slower and more expensive.

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    I still don't see why OP is letting someone else dictate how he/she uses their wifi.

    Put a password on your network and tell your family members what it is.

    You'll regain use of the network you paid for.
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    If you use ATT wiFi on your device or at home, you can use their password protected "Hot Spots" all around the country. I have DSL and wiFi network. Can use "ATT Hot Spot" almost anywhere.
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    better to be safe than sorry. i am studying for pc security specialist and this is something i never mess around with.

    i encrypted my network with a wpa2 - 63 hexadecimal randomly generateed password that is stored on a txt file backed up to my home server and flash drive. only way i can enter the password is by using that. lol
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    Good. Personally, if I don't have to sign in with a password and there is not a lock symbol on the network, I am not signing in. Just too risky for me. I can use my notes app, watch movies I downloaded from iTunes, listen to music on the iPod app on the iPad, etc. Need to check my email? Just look on my iPhone!:)

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