Why so many apps are craps?

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    Not sure how many of you agree with me, but I find 90% of all apps in appstore are useless.

    I thought since Apple alone controls the appstore, all apps will have gone some sort of quality control before inclusion in appstore - but seems not.

    I understand in some cases what I find useless someone else may find good use of it, but I do think that percentage is minimal.

    In other ecosystems (say Windows), millions of developers create their own apps and make them available via millions of individual web sites. But the best apps are often well known.

    On the contrary, in Apple world, you have only one garden owned by Apple. Even some independent (?) review sites promote (paid) apps that are not that good. Also, unlike Windows world, you can't really try an app before buying (ok, some do offer lite version but very few). I understand you can argue that one can call Apple and ask for a refund, but in general that is not well known and rarely people do that.

    Also, we often talk about "supporting the developers" by buying apps, many of which are just one trick pony. But how Windows (or Linux) developers are supported? In desktop world, even free apps offer far more features than paid apps in iPad world. Is it because iPad architecture does not support building desktop like capable apps or Apple just doesn't want that?

    Happy to hear your counter thoughts :)
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    There are really crappy apps out there. Probably a fair majority. But there's also a good chunk of quality apps well worth in excess of their value.

    Also, what you deem as crap might be a work of genius to someone else. This is why Apple don't discriminate. As long as it's not offensive or illegal they'll usually allow it. And good thing IMO.
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    I find a little research goes a long way. You can also glean a fair bit from the quality of the language used in the description of the app. I have managed to avoid spending money on useless stuff so far. GarageBand was one that I would not have purchased had I known about Amplitube , but that's not really a criticism of the app.....Amplitube just does more.

    Price is no indicator of quality either, my radio app TuneInradio, was only .59p and is superb. It's a good idea to watch the forum to see what others have to say about what they have purchased. Amplitube came as a recommendation from a member here. Now if they would just deliver my irig I can start using it :)

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    Not to mention just hanging out at this forum. After a while you'll get the idea on which apps are gotta-haves and which are have-nots. As a matter of fact, there is a whole section here at the forum dedicated to apps. The good ones always rise to the top and there are lots of threads discussing which are best at what they do.

    Your comment about millions of developers on millions of websites sounds like a whole lot of work finding the best ones, IMHO. Even if they are well known. I'll take the several million in one place (iTunes). Especially since I don't have to worry about some attached worm, malware, or virus when I download it.
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    I have rarely found any bad apps. I don't make a habit of just downloading every little thing, but I have few problems with them. Most of my problems have been they do not meet my needs in one or two ways.
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    There are plenty of apps on every system that suck.
    I agree with the above posters in that a little research, especially a forum such as this one, can save a lot of headaches no matter the platform we use.
    Maybe if I could find a dang thing on the Apple store I'd see the crappy apps but the way it operates on my Ipad keeps me from bothering look for anything new. The whole auto return to page 1 when I check the details on an app is too frustrating


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    So if 90% are crap, that still leaves 10% of 65,000 which is 650. Pretty good if you ask me.
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    That's still over 5000 more than I've got ;)

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    Not pointing out any obvious mistakes here, but multiplying your answer by ten gives a more accurate answer. ;)
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    You are so right. My math error, thank you. So 6,500 good apps, who could ask for more?
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    Apple just checked to see If the app does what it says it will do.
    Otherwise, Totally agree.
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    A lot of them are bad. I've downloaded a lot that went free for a few days on sale, and still deleted them because I hated them. I can't believe they get away with charging for them. There are some that I like very much.

    Apple really needs to require demo versions of pay for apps, as its way too easy to scam people out of their money, considering they state that there are no refunds.
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    I can't think of a single app that sucked, besides the LA Times one. I found it loaded with ads and too little copy in the iPhone version, and it had lame navigation. I tried two versions of it awhile ago and I ditched it, avoiding the iPad version entirely. There are plenty of good news apps to use in its place, and I don't even live in LA, so it's not essential to me.

    There are some I didn't find useful for my purposes, but that's not a knock on their quality. I don't go randomly trawling for apps, though. I found most of my apps based on recommendations, Top 10 lists and such. I also don't play games, so I don't know whether those are more likely to suck. Most of my apps were free, too. I have about 105, most of which I use regularly. I delete the ones I don't use.
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    Well, I can't really agree as I haven't even looked at even a fraction of "90% of all apps in appstore". I guess my question is: how did you arrive at that 90% figure, e.g. did you survey 58,000 apps firsthand?
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    I personally tried circa 500 based on reviews from various sources. Out of them ~450 turned out to be useless. If samples are taken at random, then the result reflects overall figures.

    On a slight tangent, I find that surprising number of apps are nothing but a formatter which just format relevant web pages to a format that conforms to iPad display. I can understand for apps like Flipboard, Zite, Pulse etc. it is useful as they aggregate from so many feeds. But for most others, they just format one single website!

    Why one can't use the web browser itself? Oh yes, a lot of websites just don't work with standard iPad browser!!
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    Like what? I am on my iPad all day out in the field, researching, going all over the internet and never once have I gone to a site that I could not access.
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    It is partly that but also partly that it is a hangover from the smaller smartphone screen where many of those re-formatter apps come from.

    Also some of the reformatter apps add value - such as comics, which is for the comixology site. In some cases it is to control content (DRM) and in others it gives a better interface - for example Forum Runner which gives you a decent way to read forums on a small screen (be honest it is only 9.7in).
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    Following sites do not work in iPad browser

    Gmail rich text composition
    Google/Zoho docs (because iPad does not allow content edit thing) - I understand by using some paid apps one can work with these
    Lots of online exam sites (which are Flash based)
    Preview in bookstore sites like Lulu etc. (again Flash based)
    Sites which use non English language (especially one which uses far Eastern languages as they often require some addons to be downloaded for FF/IE/Chrome to work). Off course not all sites are like that because millions of people in Japan/China use iPad.
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    You have the wrong approach sorry

    I have to say that this is totally not on. No one can take a sample of 500 hundred apps and as a result of your personal testing and your opinion come up and say based on this and my results then this percentage of total apps available is junk.... I am sorry but your calculation is incorrect. I have 250 Apps and out of that selection less than 5% of my purchases I have been unhappy with. I received credit for 9 purchases from Apple from apple as they either did crash or did not offer what they advertised and the rest I wrote off. When one purchase an Application they do for a reason, this is based on what they desire some like comics , some like books, many like games a lot do not want to pay so they down load free stuff, some need business solutions other music or may be education apps and many many more. One cannot bundle all these users in to one group. I own 30 cooking books or apps and all are excellent I surveyed various web sites and reviews before buying. with exeption of a copy of a web site app every one is great and I personally have cooked recipes from all the apps. Based on that. It is 99% of what I purchase. my point is that no one can state that 90% of all apps in Apple's iTunes store are crap based on a small survey it is simple as that. I suggest you enjoy what you like and do not get hung up on statistics because at the end of the day you miss out on the real experience that every one enjoys with the iPad.....

    Oh one more thing like Sweet poison I also use the Internet a lot daily and I also use a variety of apps to gain knowledge on subjects that are relevant to both this forum and iPhone forums where I Moderate. Considering the number of sites involved and the variety Of information I access, not once have I had issues with accessing any one of them.
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