What's the deal with Flash?

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  1. shinelt

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    it's so sad if apple wont put flash into an ipad.
    But maybe 1.5 month left. crossing my fingers. Maybe they will update
    it's until release.
     
  2. laurenceringrose

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    I pad needs flash for netflex and other movies
     
  3. Dorje

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    Netflex and Hulu, plus various types of YouTube videos. Many of the more popular video streaming sites are unusable on the iPad because Flash is persona non grata. I do agree with Jobs a bit, Flash is buggy, it is a resource hog, and it is mostly Adobes' fault. However HTML5 is still a long way off from being adopted and I'll admit some of the HTML5 stuff I tried on iPod is also slower then a tortoise on a winter night, and did not work well with the touch interface of iPod. Without a strong (and easy to implement) alternative to Flash for protected streaming of video the iPad will not be the media hub Jobs proclaims it to be.

    If you really want to get an idea of what's up, dig into HTML5 and how Apple pushed Canvas into that standard.

    Then again people said Apple was crazy for not including a Floppy Drive on the first generation of iMacs.... Although missing hardware is a bit different missing software.
     
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    In my opinion he should make a bid to buy that from Adobe Inc.

    But back to the main point, most flash content is a waste of time but more importantly it's a piece of crap. Even on the ultra-über fast PC's of today, flash can still bring your browser to a screaming halt. Adobe seems to be stagnating so much lately it's sick :\
     
  5. AbblePC

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    Steve is clearly making his statement and industries are listening.

    HTML5 as well as CSS already support video and can replace what most existing flash sites already have.

    Safari already supports it so the iPad as well as any updated iPhones and Touches can use it too.

    Youtube is already one good example as they are beta testing HTML5 right now. It looks just as good if not better than Flash video and without the resource grabbing hog that Flash is.

    Steve is doing this as both a statement to Adobe as well as a forward looking decision that it wont take much for web masters and most of the existing online content industries to switch to HTML5.

    I can see it now, being able to see video streaming within apps content and text pages or even e-mail as attachments. You need a flash based player to support it the way it is now.

    Just like the idea of seeing news videos within a newspaper app or web page without cumbersome flash.

    When Steve talks, everyone listens...:comingsoon:
     
  6. mac

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    Very unlikely to happen in the next couple of years. Less than 5% of computers out there have Safari installed, and only 2% of total browser use is Safari (so imagine how little is represented by Safari Mobile).

    The fact is that us Mac and iPhone/iPod Touch users are a tiny minority in the web universe. Only advertisers dazzled by shiny objects flock to the iPhone - and they soon become disillusioned by the tiny universe.

    From my own personal experience, my company has developed a rather cool new way to view magazines on computer screens that we'll be launching soon. It's browser based and way better than anything currently available - it's actually quite magical :) The iPad is an ideal machine for it, but the numbers of users will be so low, even if the iPad is a 'huge' success, that if we want to reach a large audience (which we need to do if we're going to make any money out of it) we're better off building it in Flash. We'll probably do an HTML5 version eventually, but not for a year or so because the browsers with the greatest penetration levels (IE for example) don't support large chunks of HTML5. And who knows what might come down the line in the next 12 months. I suspect Adobe may get their act together and tighten up Flash which would knock HTML5 on the head beacuse there are a lot more Flash developers than HTML5 developers.
     
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    All I want to be able to do is view the family videos sent via smilebox on my iPad
     
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