This just shut me up about flash.

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    I am sorry I made the statement. Not because I feel I am wrong, but because if I'd taken a moment to consider I'd have known it would just start another pointless un-winnable argument, if any argument in a forum is ultimately winnable. And my tone was bound to strike the nerve of at least one person. I apologize for that, if not the substance of my statement.

    So, resisting the urge to defend my statement further, I'm going to let it drop. It ain't easy. I'm naturally argumentative.
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    What is hilarious is that Apple cites that video is available in h.264 format using HTML5, yet they don't tell you that h.264 is a proprietary format that is NOT the universal standard for HTML5 video (as there is none at this point) and that major players are dropping their native support for it in browsers. Apple is one of the major players that is supporting h.264. So at this point, there are potentially going to be a large segment of videos using HTML5 that Apple devices simply will not be able to play. Youtube for example will most likely go the WebM route, as that is the format that Google is championing. Every major desktop browser is set to support this format in a couple of years. WebM is a open format that is free. h.264 is owned by the ISO Moving Picture Experts Group and you have to license the technology and pay fees to use it.


    Basically, everyone who is saying that HTML5 is the future is talking out of their @SS at this point, because there are zero set video standards and zero certainty that a single video standard will exist at all when HTML5 is official. Until a standard is set, its a fragmented mess of a standard that is NOT a valid replacement for flash.
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    This has long been the chief argument against Apple's stance - they favor HTML5, but it's years from being standardized and ready to be used as the sole interface to the internet. It's like building electric cars in the hope charging stations will be there for your customers. That some customers were willing to buy the cars and hope for the best doesn't make it a sound philosophy.
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    xoom
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    This is the road to a better tablet - if I were an Apple competitor, I'd watch these forums to see what existing customers like and don't like. The Ford Model T was as popular a car for much the same reason the iPad is a popular tablet - it was the first example to deliver effectively on the potential of the concept to the public. It wasn't, however, the best car made at the time, and neither is the iPad the best tablet possible. (Thinking on it, there was even something similar to the attitudes of the CEOs, with Ford's "you can have any color you want as long as it's black" line.)

    Right now, the greatest improvement I can imagine would be the exact same hardware running a similar operating system, but freed completely from anything to do with Apple, Inc. - no iTunes, no App Store, no Steve.
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    This!

    I just laugh at these pages (don't even know why I read this one, boredom?). I think to myself, why the complaints and arguments, it's never been a secret that the iPad doesn't and wont have flash...yet they bought it anyway and see fit to complain it's not there .... Makes no sense.
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    The title of this thread is, "This just shut me up about flash."

    Oh, if that was only true!
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    Well, to be fair, the OP has been mostly silent since starting the thread. He never promised anyone else would shut up. ;)
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    Maybe, just maybe every single iPad owner didn't research on the Internet before they bought it, ever thought about that?
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    Well ~ that's their bad. I had NO clue what the hell Flash was. But I knew before I spent $900 ~ I sure the hell was gonna find out exactly if the iPad would do what I needed.
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    Bought as an iPod replacement.
    It does more.
    Hurrah.

    Big pockets.

    This poetry's infectious.......
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    The complaints about the flash threads are more puzzling to me; the threads are pretty easy to skip...
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    He's a moderator. Skipping is probably not part of the job description.
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    Complaining about them isn't in the description either. They are supposed to stay impartial.
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    To me it is like getting mad because Mazda does not offer a snow plow option.
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    They can have an opinion. What are you talking about?
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    When enforcing the rules they are required to stay impartial. I'll leave it at that.
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    It did. I haven't posted anything about flash yet.
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    lol ... nice one!
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