Ten Devices Set to rival the iPad 2

Discussion in 'Apple iPad News' started by iDan, Jun 28, 2011.

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    I think that was simply a function of the price drop sell off. You can't really say it was competition for the iPad.

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    Agree with that.
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    Yeah I said the touchpad did well sarcastically! Shame though, webos is a decent os.

    Apple won't have any decent rivals for a long time yet!
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    I would like to see Amazon's offering as they are projecting shipments of 5 million in the 4th quarter......
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    Do you know how many Kindles they sold last year? 8m.

    They project 17m Kindles this year, in part because they plan to drop the price to $99 for Christmas sales for the entry level model.

    I would think that any Amazon tablet would steal market share from high end Kindle sales in the quarter, rather than open up new markets to them.

    The top priced Kindle sells for $379 today...

    -t
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    I think the ipad's edge will be the appstore. I mean it has the largest and most reliable source of applications. Unless other tablets has a wide range of appstore, they can rival the ipad.
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    The HP died... again.
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    Ultimately we will see what the sales numbers show, but I'm betting that these sales cannibalize Kindle sales first and foremost. Amazon is still seen as a book seller by a huge segment of the market, and not a computing hardware supplier.

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    Amazon is one of the top e-commerce sites in the world because it sells everything under the sun. The impression you describe is an outdated one, and I doubt that anyone who's an Amazon customer clings to that.
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    As I said sales will ultimately tell, not pundits.

    It's likely their tablet will come in at a price that is inline with and not dramatically cheaper than the competition.

    The high end Kindle is nearly $400 - not cheap. It's not likely they will undercut this price.

    We can have this conversation again in January and see if they hit their 17m 2011 Kindle prediction AND their 5m Q4 tablet prediction.

    I'm saying they will not, that they will lose Kindle sales to the tablet.

    You keep saying that some magically enhanced Amazon shopping experience is going to drive sales of a hardware tablet. I think that's nonsense.

    Time will tell.

    -t
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    Please try to stick with facts:

    Amazon has never revealed Kindle sales numbers.

    I have posted that Amazon would use its content to push hardware sales. That's an obvious sales strategy.

    Amazon is a huge seller of many products, and has been for years.

    It has amazing goodwill among consumers, as shown by annual rankings in customer satisfaction.

    I have not jumped to conclusions about its success. You refer to my previous posts, but you seem to have forgotten, misread, misunderstood or selectively remembered. I have posted that Amazon can afford to take a risk with a tablet; risk is defined as including the possibility of failure.

    I'm a consumer who's glad to see a company with resources and smarts take a risk and offer some decent competition in the Android tablet market, which hardware makers have failed to do so far.
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    I agree with this 100%.

    The only reason I still shop with Amazon is because every time I've had a product fail they've given me a refund. "Every" isn't figurative, this is literal and their success rate with fixing my problems has been 100%. I've never had another company match that.

    I'm excited to see what the Amazon tablet can do. Remember when we all assumed the iPad was going to be a giant iPod Touch and we were all proved wrong? Remember when we thought it was going to be solely for media consumption and we were all proved wrong? Amazon is in a position to be innovative in ways that HP, Apple, IBM, and Microsoft aren't.
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    In a discussion based on speculation and guessing the future, facts are always augmented with opinion.... I've read all your opinion and praise, I'm not selectively recalling thank you.

    The unit sales numbers for the Kindle are accepted by market analysts, nothing I made up. Though Amazon has never released Kindle unit sales numbers they do have suppliers who do release numbers and it's not rocket science to determine fairly accurate sales numbers.

    It will be interesting to see how successful their tablet offering really is, however if I had to bet on 5m units in Q4 the odds would be very long against it.

    -t
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    The market analysts who are estimating Kindle sales are the same ones who are now saying that Amazon would be a credible tablet maker and seller. Lol.
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    I never said they would not be credible, just that I think they are blowing smoke when they estimate 5m unit sales in Q4 along with 17m Kindle sakes for 2011.

    They will be lucky to do half those tablet sales and will take from the high end Kindle sales to do so.

    -t
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    By the way, I consider several million unit sales a year to be successful - as would have. HP...
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    Rival the iPad? Not a chance.
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    I don't bother much with analyst figures in this case, because they miscalled Kindle from the start. Now it's a success and they finally recognize that. Duh.

    As far as Amazon tablet sales, the company operates in secrecy and has a different timeline and risk tolerance than most. They are willing to take a longer view, which is why I consider first-quarter predictions next to useless with any tablet it produces.

    I'd bet that Amazon would happily give up every Kindle sale for a tablet one. Any tablet it produces would be geared toward selling even more Amazon products than a Kindle. Most buyers of an Amazon tablet probably would spend even more at Amazon than they do now.

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