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Discussion in 'iPad Hacking' started by bigb0ss, Dec 15, 2010.

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    I'm interested in buying a new ipad and want to the know the following question...

    *** Is it possible to "Tether" the internet connection from my Droid-X to the Ipad?:confused:

    If so: Please explain in simple terminology, because this is all new to me. I have used PDA.NET to tether my MAC to my Droid, which was quite simple.

    Thanks, everyone!!!
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    Yes, your iPad will connect in the same way your PC does. I use my iPhone to do the same way... Works like a charm!
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    dannyboy...Do i have to mod my droid x or the ipad itself? If so/not can you give me simple step by step instructions?
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    Someone else that knows more step by step on a droid can chime in here...:D but you will basically use an app that broadcast a wireless network and your iPad will connect to it. (not sure if the droid has to be rooted or not?)
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    Use wifi or to save battery use ibluever on Cydia.
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    Yes...PLEASE chime in! I've done everything I know how and I still can't get Internet access on my iPad. I rooted my DroidX, downloaded and installed both Wireless Tether and Barnacle. Although both show up on the ipad as working , so far I've had no success actually connecting. ANY SUGGESTIONS?:confused:
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    Mossi,

    I'm a Droid 1 guy so this may work different for the X, but I had the same issue. It turns out that certain kernals work better than others with wireless tether. I had to try a few before I got one to work with my Ipad but now its slicker than snot. Try a few different kernals and see if that helps.

    BTW, I'm running UD 2.5 on my Droid with a Slayher kernal.

    Hope this helps,

    John
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    Could you explain the concept of a kernel to me? What are they and where do you get them? And. What is UD 2.5? People talk about changing ROMs. What are THEY, and where you acquire them?
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    Bigb0ss. Check out a forum called XDAdevelopers. This forum has just about every android device under the sun, how to root them, and almost any other topic you can think of.

    This was where i found all the info and troubleshooting when i was rooting and wirelessly tethering my Evo 4G. I just picked up the iPad last week and was wirelessly tethering my evo all weekend at my parents house. Worked like a charm!

    Since your on verizons network, just be careful. There is a limit (although you'd have to lookup what the limit is) to the amount of data that can be tethered per month without paying overages. This is why I went with the sprint evo because there is no limit!

    Best of luck to ya!
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    Go here, lots of good info and a sister site I believe to this one.

    I'm not a computer geek, so my vernacular may be a bit off here. A kernel is the part of a ROM that controls the radio (wifi, processor speed and cell signal). With some customs ROMs, like Ultimate Droid (UD) you can change kernels to speed up the processor of your Droid. Some of them work better than others, and since you say you've rooted your X I assume you have the ability to change kernels.

    I found that certain kernels did not allow my wireless tether to work as well as others. Once I found one that worked I stuck with it and no longer had problems tethering my Ipad to my Droid.

    Hope this helps,

    John
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    Not exactly, Johnny, but you are close. The kernel is the core of the operating system. As such, it performs the functions you describe (controlling radios, network, user input input, camera, etc...) by talking to device drivers, which in turn control the hardware. It is also the base layer that the Android or IOS operating system runs on. If you think of the CPU as the heart of a physical computer, the kernel is the heart of the software. It isn't part of the ROM, it resides in the ROM. The ROM (read only memory) is a place where important system programs (device drivers, IOS or Android, and the kernel) reside when the device is powered off. In this modern age, kernels can be updated. This is known colloquially as "installing a new ROM", although you aren't changing out any physical parts. What happens when you "install a new ROM" is that you place the device in a state where the ROM can be overwritten with a new kernel, a new operating system, or new device drivers.
    People who are very good programmers (such as the RedSn0w team, or the Apple IOS team) are capable of modifying the kernel and device drivers to add or remove functionality from the device. Since Apple doesn't want anyone but them to modify the kernel, the device must be "jailbroken" to allow 3rd party kernels to be installed. Google has no such hangups, although the carriers that get the Android OS and kernel from Google do, which is why Android phones must also be jailbroken if you want to install new functionality.
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    Few things...

    One, the only true ROM in an iOS device is the bootloader. It is the small part that is non-writable memory. Everything else, including the OS, is stored in flash--just as if it were a SSD or hard drive on a Mac or Windows PC. The bootloader is the safety net and can always be used to reinstall firmware. It is what runs DFU mode.

    Two, (both of) you have sort of overlooked the part of the equation that actually deals with the cellular network: the baseband. This is what controls all communications between the iPad 3G and iPhone to the cell network. It has its own CPU, OS, and firmware, apart from iOS. So when it comes to cell networks iOS is not actually controlling the cellular radio at all: the baseband is. And, the baseband in the iPad 3G is exactly the same as that used in the iPhone. Apple does not make or maintain the baseband, it is from Infineon, who is now owned by Intel. There are rumors that Apple is going to switch to a Qualcomm baseband with the iPhone 5, and presumably the iPad 2.



    Michael
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    Good points, Michael. Thanks for the clarification.
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    No problemo.... thanks for doing most of the work for me. :)
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    Thanks, guys! Until you explained, I thought of the kernel as something that could be simply downloaded and installed. Now I'm scared to death! LOL. I'm not at all afraid to do these things under the direction of an "expert"' but not by myself. Since there isn't a catagory called "kernels and stuff", where do I go to find them?
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    Mossi,

    I use XDA extensivly and have "rooted" (unlock the phone, jailbreak, different OS's use different terms) Basically in order to install a custom kernel or rom you need to be rooted. This can be a little tricky, however there are usually newbie forums over on XDA. If your hotspot isn't working then this would be the next choice. Just remember however that if you do root your droid, that you must restore it back to factory settings before taking back into your carrier for service. Rooting technically voids the warrenty, however I've never encountered a situation with either of my 2 preivous android phones where a simple RUU Recovery (The exe file on windows that will restore your phone to complete factory settings as if you just pulled it out of the box) Feel free to send me a personal message I can help, though I don't have a droid X, most of android is the same. I use my phone to wirelessly tether my ipad. If you have 4g then your crankin, but 3g is good enough to check mail/web and even stream some music. hope this helps

    Here is link to Droid X on XDA: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=687
    Droid X WIkki - Start Here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=File:Motorola_Droid_X.png

    It looks like z4root works on droid X, though I've never used it, it's supposed to be an easy way to root. I don't see any separate kernel's for droid x, likely you will need to root and load a "ROM", which includes the kernel, that has better wifi binary files and drivers. PM me for more help
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