No Adobe, No Windows Media, No RealPlayer Support???

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    There seems to be a general lack of concern about the iPads shortcomings. I guess if you are an Apple fanatic you turn a blind eye. I received the iPad for Christmas - someone was way too generous! Anyway, it is cool and all but really, really limited. The fact that it won't play Adobe Flash sucks......HTML5 is hardly as ubiquitous. But ok...yet when I tried to listen to earnings calls and presentations from corporations.....which is really what I do.....it is totally useless. Veracast, like most other such sites, makes you choose between Windows Media Player or RealPlayer to listen to the stream but you guessed it - the iPad OS doesn't support them either! Why do these forums not address these glaring oversights????? Can someone confirm that I am correct about the iPads shortcomings, I would really appreciate it. (my girlfriend could have bought me 2 nice net books for less than the cost of this one neat doorstop) Any takers?
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    Okay, we forgive you... this time! Because the iPad came to you as a gift. Most of us had to shop for it and learned early on what shortcomings it had. I'm a PC user so I did mind about some of your gripes too. But after living with the iPad for 8 months and discovering the great things the iPad can do, I hardly ever use the PC directly anymore. When I do it's by remote, through the iPad with Splashtop. (that solves using Flash)

    The iPad is not a computer, it was meant as an Apple sold media consumption device, like the iPods. You can do more than that with it if you wish. You just have to be clever about it and look for things in the AppStore that will do what you need to be done.
    If you want to remain (have your pick) lazy, stubborn, unimaginative, obtuse or ignorant, just throw the piece of crap out the window and you'll make sure that your life does not change.

    Of course if you take up the challenge you'll have the luxury of looking for solutions on this fine site. And the fine people you've just slapped in the face will be eager to help you... Me included!
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    No we're not blind to it's shortcomings, just prepared to accept it's limitations.
    It's a new gadget and compromises have been made for portability and battery life.
    Your's is a somewhat specialised requirement and the iPads obviously not for you. Sorry if you feel money has been wasted.

    ps Avoid netbooks like the plague and get a reasonable laptop as they are built to a budget and perform accordingly.
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    Fair enough. The media I would like to consume primarily comes from a website that forces me to choose from one of two players - RealPlayer or Windows Media Player. I am not super technical (but don't want to remain ignorant which is why I came to the forums to begin with) - so am I correct in assuming that until such websites offer the option of playing such transmissions with some other programs - I am out of luck????
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    Come on, you are kidding, right?

    The problems with Flash Player is simply hardheadedness on Apples part. They don't want to allow you to use Adobe products. It has nothing to do with portability or battery life.
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    Agreed about some of the reasons behind flash but avoiding the huge, bulky, bloated software such as most of Microsoft's or Adobe's, is a big reason why battery life is so efficient. Using a slower processor is then possible and so benefits longevity. I don't dispute that Apple also benefits in the process but I'm okay with that and so should we all. That will mean ongoing R&D for better new products... BTW when's this TabletMac coming out?
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    I really don't see how this is a lack of oversight that we should all be up in arms about. From the Veracast website:

    "We are a leading developer and provider of web-based solutions for multimedia webcasting over the Internet. Veracast serves businesses and organizations that want to use the Internet for virtual communications. Formed in 1998, Veracast is a leader and pioneer in the use of streaming media technologies for virtual communications in business, particularly the financial services industry.

    Veracast has built its business and reputation by providing our clients with the highest level of service, technical support and reliability to help them extend and expand the reach of their corporate communications efforts."

    How can they possibly call themselves a leader and not have solutions in place that would support some of the most ubiquitous mobile devices? Have you tried contacting them?
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    People forget that apple has been studying crash logs for years and one of the major culprits has always been flash and adobe's crappy upgrades and security loopholes.
    Why should they open another can of worms?

    They clearly said they had no intention of running flash on the new gadget from the start, especially when the hardware is so limited.
    Anyway how do you do a mouse roll-over with touch?

    Maybe they will reconsider with later models with better cpus and memory but for the moment we have to do without.
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    Stackman, I'm prepared to get severly flamed for this, but there truly is a FanBoy culture with Apple users. If you have a reasonable question about a feature, there are many who will tell you to stop complaining because you don't really NEED it. Talk about half price, full featured NetBooks will be noted as your stupidness for not recognizing value. And your failure to recognize the iPad as the answer to every problem, will earn you criticism for being out of touch.

    The ipad is many great things and fills a portability and entertainment need. But it's not reliable for business use because of the limitations you cited. Personally, I save my serious work for the PC. Applets are the greatest thing, because the sites make their content work on the iPad.

    So I agree with the poster to use it for what it can do, get some great tips from this site (they're not all fanboys), and set your expectations of the device accordingly.
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    After reading the first post I was ready to start cheering for the Jets. I use PCs at work. But there is an app I use that outshines anything MS could produce. It's just different.

    It's like boats. Just because you can't waterski behind a sailboat doesn't mean the sailboat is defective.

    I think over time you find how useful the iPad is.
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    See next post by me.
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    For your sake, I hope your girl friend doesn't see this rant of yours about her wonderful gift. I wish I had someone like that.

    If you want to use flash, at least on some sites, try this:

    "http://www.ipad.net/how-to-watch-flash-video-on-your-ipad-without-an-app-hack-or-jailbreak.html" without the quotes, of course.

    A quick check, shows that it works as advertized.

    If the Windows Media Player is use to view video's (WMV), you can use "OPlayer HD" to view them on the iPad.

    I believe this covers your complaints.
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    I can read PDF documents just fine on my iPad.
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    Thanks for all the feedback. I had to laugh a little though at TJK's ironic complaint about Veracast not being a leader: "How can they possibly call themselves a leader (Veracast) and not have solutions in place that would support some of the most ubiquitous mobile devices? Have you tried contacting them?" That is actually the problem I have with the iPad. I do have a wonderful girlfriend. Unfortunately, she is not technical and wrongly assumed that such a highly priced device should be able to surf the internet flawlessly. Don't worry she will never here me complain. I'm no fool. Finally, to FlintHills - root for the Jets! Although I am now living in Pittsburgh but I was born and raised in NYC and will be wearing green tomorrow. Honestly, thanks for all the feedback everyone!
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    So this is this week's "iPad doesn't have/do __________" huh?
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    The most common solution is to check the App Store - do a search based on what function you're looking for and likely someone somewhere has written an app for it.

    And you got off so easy - smart of you to mention it was a gift. Mentioning the lack of Flash usually gets you a solid virtual beat-down on this forum, as the bare minimum of research would tell anyone the iPad doesn't support Flash.
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    Copying and pasting The how to watch flash link did not work for me. Can you
    insert the actual link?
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    Stackman1, I'm curious which apps have become you're favorites. I'm partial to iBooks and Zinio (magazines).

    Oh ya..... go Jets!
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    PDF is not an adobe product. Adobe makes a PDF product. See the difference? PDF is a standard.

    Nate
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