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New Amazon Fire Tablet killing the iPad? We think not.....

Discussion in 'iPad General Discussions' started by Padholdr, Sep 28, 2011.

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    There have been some rumors going around that the new Amazon tablet would be a huge competition with the iPad because of the price being half of what the iPad is. This morning the Amazon tablet was released, and it does seem to be a good value, however it doesn't even come close to competing with the iPad.

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    As soon as the competition release their tablets with a 'smaller' screen, they are lagging behind straight away. One of the biggest plusses of the i-pad is its 10 inch screen, perfect for watching video. A screen half this size is a total waste of time in my opinion, I use mine as an in car DVD player, I have a Nissan Qashqai with 7 speaker Bose sound system, this combined with my i-pad showing movies in HD takes some beating. The new Amazon tablet is half the price of the i-pad, that's because it's half the quality!
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    Exactly. No camera's, 3g. or microphone either!
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    I think it's a good device for someone who is budget conscience and who only wants to do some web surfing, watching video and reading books. The screen size may be fine for others, I think it's a little small for movies and web surfing but that is a personal taste. If they’re not needing an app store and a device that they can be more productive with then I think the Kindle Fire is a good alternative. Honestly, I don't think it's really fair to compare the iPad to the Kindle Fire, the Kindle Fire is more of an entry level device whereas the iPad is more advanced and at a different level.
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    Right on
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    I also think it seems like a very good entry level device. At 7 inches is small but ok. Will be a great eReader plus web surfing,
    email, some games and other apps from android app store, streaming and movies. Sounds like a good low price alternative to
    The iPad for those only need those capabilities.
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    What is interesting is the price point though, couple hundred bucks and I can get one for my kids and they can play games on it in the car and my iPad takes less of a beating. I read on my iPhone all the time with the Kindle app so may be an option. I had no inclination to buy any other iPad killer but for the price may think about this "killer" cause I like to read.
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    Right on the money, I agree 100%

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    It's not so much a matter of "fairness" - but consumers will automatically make the comparison between the two, and while the iPad is not under any immediate threat from the Fire, the Fire could be Amazon's early steps to eventually make inroads into the 10” tablet market share, in a generation or two (esp at their price point.)
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    I agree with you but I think once consumers start doing some research and feature comparisons they will find that they are two different beasts and choose the one that suits their needs best; kind of like a point & shoot and a DSLR. I personally hope that Amazon is successful with the Fire and in time adds more hardware and features to it so it is at the same level as the iPad. Competition forces the companies to be on the ball and in the end it's the consumers that end up reaping the benefits.
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    It looks like it's just a color display Kindle reader with a few extra features.. I'm sure there will be a market for it, but like others have already pointed out. It's too small for me.
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    I don't see the Fire wrecking iPad's short-term future, but there probably will be people who will opt for a Fire instead of an iPad. A few hundred dollars' difference means a lot to many consumers.

    Longer term, if Amazon can produce and sell the Fire for 200 bucks, I wonder what it can come up with for 500-plus.

    As a consumer, I like to see competition. As a stockholder in Amazon and Apple, I like to see share prices rise. But I'm not emotionally attached to devices, companies or shares; I'll buy and keep only what serves me.

    I'll get to try a Fire anyway, because my husband has pre-ordered one. He said it was too cheap not to goof around with, which I thought was funny considering that he barely uses his iPad.
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    The only way Amazon can sell the tablet for this cheap is because they are just covering their costs and plan to make all their profit on content.

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    Yes, as several people noted on another Amazon-Apple thread, that's the key reason we thought Amazon could come on stronger than other existing tablet makers.
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    Considering powerhouse hardware manufacturer HP only sold 20,000 tablets before bailing out and dumping them below cost, Amazon will have to do something very creative to grow beyond the already defined Kindle market.

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    HP was a nonstarter from what I could see as a non-techie. I don't care if your hardware can do Mach 12 if I can't easily access content. Maybe there's a niche for tablet buyers who like to tinker, but that niche clearly isn't what Amazon is targeting. It's selling easy access to content.

    Who knows, maybe Fire will flop. But Amazon has shown that it's willing to think long term, and it's shown with Kindle that it has hardware as well as content chops. Anyway, competition is good, even for iPad diehards. More pressure on Apple to ease prices and boost features.
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    Well, no camera, no microphone, for $199 to buy an lighter, thinner e-book reader is OK, but if compared to the iPad, I think the iPad have much superiority, not only have got many users, but also the hardware is better I think.
    Maybe to be a ereader and video&movies watch device is great! And want to know if all common format are supported, then I don't need the Aneesoft video converter to do converting for my movies enjoy anymore.
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    Just Seen a Review, and gotta say wow! For the Price its Pretty Damm good, i mean i could myself Never think of replacing my ipad2 with One of These, but for my Kids or someone that just wants to Surf and Watch vids, its well Worth the Money!
    Its a shame that its not available in Austria!
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    Excellent piece. My favorite comment is..

    "The Kindle Fire fills that tiny tablet gap in my life. It only has the features I really care about at a price point that's reasonable. It's more than reasonable, it's pretty great. But more importantly, it's the color Kindle I've been waiting for. I don't care about built-in 3G. That's what Mi-Fis are for. The camera on our iPad was used the first week just to point out how horrible the pictures looked..."

    That sums it up, I think. One's reaction to the Fire depends completely on how "tiny" (or gigantic) a "gap" a tablet fills. Even among those who grant the potential of the Fire there's often a qualifier that amounts to, "for low end users," "for the masses," or "a gateway device." In fact, the real issue is how wide a functionality gap exists between devices for a particular user. The iPad is a great device for me, but I now have three keyboards on my desk; one for my desktop, one for my laptop, and one for the iPad. (At least I don't have a 3G iPad that, like the author of the article, would overlap in functionality with my broadband connection at home and my mifi portable 4G/LTE hotspot.) I have music available from all three devices with varying levels of quality. Email comes to all three devices. And with Skype I can even make phone calls on my iPad or my smartphone. Redundant? You bet. If my wife only know just how redundant these devices are she'd give me even more grief for my "hobbies."

    I wouldn't give up my iPad for the Fire. But if it had been available when I bought the iPad I would have thought seriously about how big a "gap" in functionality I needed to fill and the price to do so.
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