Making the move to iphone to sync w/iPad

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    So I take my tech seriously. I received an iPad last November for my birthday and quickly took to it. I have long been sold on Apple and have a Mac at home along with a bunch of PC's. I have a Blackberry tour and will make the iPhone switch, just not sure when – just do it or wait for the 5?
    So that is one question, a few more are the iPad I have is an ATT, and I am on Verizon. I would rather stay on VER for phone; can I switch without having to get the Mifi? The iPad is the biggest capacity with WIFI and Data although I have not activated the data. Can I tether as opposed to getting VER bill for phone and ATT bill if I activate the data for iPad?
    Also when synching iPad and iPhone, can I choose which files move to the iPhone? I have 50+ Gigs on the iPad and don’t need everything on the iphone.
    I know I am over dramatizing but could you some calm, rational educated opinions puh-leeze. Thanks in advance for any insight/help.
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    You can only tether the iPhone to the iPad to use the data plan with the iPhone, not the other way round. Is that what you meant?

    For syncing , yes there will be no problem syncing different things to different devices, I currently have two iPhones, an iPad and 4 iPods synced to the same library and they are all setup differently.
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    Yes I guess I maen can I use the phone's data plan to go on line with the pad where i don;t have Wifi? And would I be able to do that with twop different carriers?

    And as far as synching - you are synching all i devices to itunes/home computer?
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    There are a couple of different ways to go about tethering if you have iPhone and iPad. I don't think you need to be worried about having different carriers as that does not come into play.

    First off, the legitimate way is to pay your phone carrier for their tethering bundle. This will enable the "Personal Hotspot" feature on iOS 4.3 and allow you to connect several devices to your phone to share its 3G connection via WiFi. Depending on where you are and who your carrier is this can either be free or very expensive!

    Next, you can jailbreak your iPhone and install an app such as MyWi or PDANet. Both these are paid apps (with free trials), but cost a one off fee and are considerably less than a monthly tethering package. MyWi is $20. They do not enable the "Personal Hotspot" feature of iOS, but they provide their own hotspot feature in their apps. For example, MyWi enables Wifi, Bluetooth, and cable tethering. In this scenario you are using your existing phone data allowance, so the thing you need to do is watch you do not exceed your allowance. Also, it has been reported that carriers, such as AT&T, can still see you are tethering without an official package and many users have reported receiving emails from them asking them to start paying for the service or stop doing it.

    It is also possible to use apps such as MyWi on your iPad (if jailbroken) where you have activated your cellular data on that device, and again share that over wifi, bluetooth, or USB to other devices. I don't think it is strictly applicable to your situation, but good to know none the less. You don't need to pay for MyWi again in this scenario. The licence like most stuff on Cydia (the JB apps store) is "per user".

    Hope that helps. Please ask if you have any questions. Visit the hacking section for lots of good information and the facts regarding jailbreaking.
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    Yes to the tethering and yes to the syncing.

    If your gonna go the tethering route you could consider just getting a wifi only model.
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    Not strictly true my friend. You can for example run MyWi perfectly well on the iPad and share it's 3G connection to other devices over wi-fi, bluetooth, and USB. I do this regularly if for whatever reason I cannot get a wifi connection for my laptop and am in a bind!
    I can connect my phone to it via wi-fi, although I have never come across a situation where I acutally would WANT to do this! But, its possible none the less :D
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    Non jail broken? In which case i am wrong, but if it requires jail breaking and he's getting an iPad 2 can he do it then?

    I know he doesn't specifically say he's getting a iPad 2 but I would think most people would be looking at getting one new.
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    Yes, must be jailbroken. I read the OPs post differently. He said he received his iPad last November, therefore it is definitely a 1 and jailbreakable.
    It is the phone which he is looking to purchase now..., hence the question about waiting for a 5...

    Did I misunderstand?
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    Gents - first off THANK YOU very much.

    Second, have an original iPad, not planning on getting a 2 just yet. Have a jailbroken iTouch - but that does not come into play. Plan on keeping the original iPad and hopefully tethering with a new iPhone in situations where I have no wifi. Again, not planning on connecting to ATT for iPad unless it is only/last resort.
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    I would wait for the iphone 4S/5, but thats up to you.

    The tethering is well-covered so I'll just talk about the syncing. they can have very different sync setup at the iTunes level, so you can choose what gets put on each device, but you won't be able to sync any kind of game data unless it pulls info from the Internet. you can't sync the iPad to the iPhone if you're wondering about that (unclear from your OP).
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    Cool, thanks for clearing that up.

    Well, if JB doesn't scare you off (and it sounds like it doesn't) get your Verizon iPhone4, jailbreak it (it is easy at the moment - use redsn0w for latest firmware), and purchase MyWi from Cydia for $20 - You will have wifi hotspot, bluetooth, and USB cable tethering capability which will use the standard data plan which comes with your phone.

    Head on over to the Hacking Section if you have any questions on jailbreaking, but we also have a sister site iphoneforums.net where you can research the iPhone piece "natively" so to speak!!!

    Hope that helps.
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    Ok then I apologise, but we are both right in a way, there's no way to do it without a jailbreak and currently no way at all on the iPad 2.
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    Not to rain on the jailbreak parade, but if you get an iPhone 5 don't plan on jailbreaking it immediately.

    It will almost certainly come with the new iOS 5 and new firmware/hardware, and that will almost certainly entail at least a short delay before a jailbreak is available.

    So, if you wait for the iPhone 5 (and I'd wait at least until after the WWDC this Monday before choosing not to wait) plan to either keep your AT&T data plan for the iPad, or pay for the Verizon hotspot, at least for the first few months.
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    No, you are right to bring that up twerppoet. I was talking about it being easy only if the OP goes for an Verizon iPhone4 now. iPhone4S or 5 or whatever is released next will likely be subject to a wait before it is jailbroken, just like the current situation with the iPad2 because it will invariably be a new bootrom and a new OS.

    In that case, the OP would have to go legit for tethering via a hotspot.
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    Gents, again many thanks. And again, sorry if I was not clear. I will likely NOT jailbreak simply because the device will have proprietary business apps on it as well and connect to my main office. I would rather not go down the jailbreak road again.

    It sounds like after all I might just have to buck up to two phone/data plans/bills?
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    It has it's up side. AT&T is faster when you've got a solid connection, and you won't have to fiddle with your phone when you want to use the iPad. If you pony up for the Verizon hotspot as well ($20) you'll have backup for the iPad (or any Wi-Fi device) when you're in one of AT&T's dead spots.

    I've used my iPhone to get internet on my desktop when my home internet went down. It's enough make sure I don't loose contact with the world, and I can let my ISP know that I'd like a little help.
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    Great advice. Learned a lot. Thank you all. I'm gonna pony up!

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