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iPad2's Limited Operating System

Discussion in 'iPad 2 Forum' started by toglenn, Oct 12, 2011.

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    I’ve had my iPad2 for less than a month and have come to the conclusion that it has a lot of potential but is severely limited by its poor operating system. Many Apps use work-a-round methods to try to correct some of the numerous restrictions but many of these are awkward in operation.

    I believe these limitations were intentional in accordance to Steve Job’s Apple policy. Granted he was a great business man and forward thinking entrepreneur who greatly impacted the communications world of today but he was also a control freak who jealously guarded his Apple world from outside competition. He put great emphasis style and limited functionality where it strayed from his domain.

    Don’t get me wrong, my first computer was an Apple II+ which I bought in the early 80’s and got great production from it using Multiplex for numerous spread functions for business and adapting 3[SUP]rd[/SUP] party software for use in Ham radio applications but when IBM came out with the PC my Apple went on the shelf and still sits there today, gathering dust. When new tablets are introduced with the Windows 8 OS it will become crystal clear how limited the iPad2 OS really is.
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    What restrictions have you encountered? For sure, iOS is different to Windows but 'vive le difference'!

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    Being a PC user myself I can see why you feel that way. I understand that Apple does things differently and I dont agree with all their policies. That being said, in the tablet world right now there isnt an Android system that I'd be happy with. I just bought an ipad2 after some research and shopping. I played with them all, tried other peoples, etc, etc. I see why people like the iPads so much: They just "work" right and feel very well sorted out. The android tablets seem slapped together and while they have some great features, they just arent as well developed or as stable.

    I understood what I was getting with the iPad2 and what I was not getting with the iPad2. Not saying you didnt, but Ive accepted some of the "lock-down" that Apple enforces. However, I was willing to trade that for a more stable platform and zillions of tab-specific apps and the best interface out there.

    As for Windows 8 tablet systems - it will be interesting to see what they come up with. But, for what me and my family need, the iPad2 was the easy choice. At some point, I might even have a windows 8 tab. Who knows?
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    dont feed the trolls.
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    I dont think this person is being a troll - they have some legitimate gripes. No device is perfect, even the mighty iPad2 :)
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    I totally agree. So watch the comments. Please.
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    What, an operating system designed to work on a phone is more limited than a full-blown OS designed for workstations? Call the Department of Under-Handedness, Tablet Computer Division! Their phone number is WELL-DUH, the person you'll need to speak to is Capt. Obveeus.

    How restricted is it compared to actual rivals like Android? Yeah, that's what I thought.

    If you were expecting full-pc performance from an iPad, I can understand your disappointment. What I can't understand is how you didn't know that before you bought one, since it's mentioned pretty much constantly - most iPad users can't sit still for more than 2 minutes without some blowhard plopping down to explain in lengthy detail how it's not a computer. Next you'll complain about how you didn't know Flash wasn't supported.

    Sell the iPad, get your Windows 8 tablet, be happy. Don't complain about the heavier weight, larger size, reduced battery life, viruses and such, okay?
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    This is a warning. All rude, disrespectful, and useless posts will be deleted from here on out and appropriate sanctions issued. This is a discussion board. Do so like adults, please.


    Last Warning to all who decide to post here.
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    Well said! I completely agree!!!!! Everyone is entitled to his or her opinion, whether positive or not for our beloved iPad :)
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    Actually, iOS is quite restricted compared to Android. But it's not because iOS is a "poor" operating system. The restrictions stem from conscious design decisions, priorities, and inevitable compromises that are part of the entire "design" process. Apple places severe constraints on multitasking compared to Android, for example. That can be annoying and frustrating but it also means that devices like the iPhone and iPad don't suffer from the lags and unpredictable performance that can occur in an Android device when multiple applications compete for cpu cycles. That problem can be solved with a faster processor and more ram. Google is largely agnostic about that issue since they don't manufacture hardware. (Or at least they didn't when Android was developed.) Apple, on the other hand, is faced with designing an os to run on relatively inexpensive, low power processors. To make a device with long battery life and consistent performance, the obvious answer is to limit multitasking in the OS. Android devices have much greater access to background processing (especially valuable in widgets) and a much greater range of customized application launchers. Those features, however, mean that two identical devices may perform very differently. Apple avoids that. Likewise, Android devices enable selection of many different keyboards. But divorcing the keyboard from the OS and treating it as an app is relatively inefficient. No problem if there is sufficient processing power but a big problem if the hardware has performance constraints.

    Likewise, the design of iOS (and the devices on which it runs) resulted in the absence of a common data store that can be accessed by multiple applications. That can be a PITA in several ways. It means redundant storage when two applications each have copies of the same data object. It also means that eliminating a data object requires deleting every copy of a file stored with and controlled by individual apps. But it also means that one of the major vulnerabilities to viruses and malware is plugged in iOS. Since the OS leaves management of files to individual apps, it means the opportunity for a virus to "spread" throughout the system is largely eliminated.

    Personally, I'm a long time Windows, Unix, and Linux user. And I've been using an Android device for over two years. I appreciate the features those platforms provide. But I also understand why Apple makes the decisions they make. And for the most part those decisions are not based on Steve Jobs' reputation as a "control freak." They're reasonable compromises that make it possible for Apple to deliver a consistent user experience in the hardware Apple manufactures. I use Windows 7 every day and thank the Lord I was finally able to escape from Vista. But even with the vast improvements of Windows 7 I reboot my computers running that OS more often in a week than I've had to with my iPad in nine months. And I appreciate the customization I have with my Android smartphone. But with that "freedom" comes a considerably greater "system maintenance" burden than with my iPad.

    Again, design is a process of setting priorities and making compromises. Apple has a clear strategy with their iOS devices. Google has a very different strategy for Android. And Microsoft is striving mightily to provide a common os for devices from phones to quad core high performance desktops. Microsoft will face the need for compromises as well. In a year or so, we can all see how well they resolve those compromises.
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    I have had my iPad 2 for approximately 2 months. I also researched nearly every higher rated tablet being sold and tried out most of them. I chose the iPad because it was easy to use, comfortable and offered many options that just worked for me. I didn't expect it to be 'perfect' but I was hoping it would meet my needs at this time...and it has, and more. That doesn't mean that something else won't come along in the future that will work better. After all technology is always changing and mostly improving.
    I am sorry to hear that you are so unhappy with your iPad. It is a lot of money to spend for something that isn't working for you. Not every device is perfect for everyone. Hopefully you can sell it and purchase a tablet that will better meet your needs.
    Please let us know which tablet you purchase that works better for you.
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    Excellent post......and research is definitely the key.
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    Toglenn--

    I understand your statement. I initially had the Acer Iconia A500 and used it religiously for ~5 weeks before I returned it. I had my concerns about the lack of USB port, memory expansion and flash issues with the Ipad-so that was why I went the direction I did. I really liked the android system--but it I found it needed more time to stabilize itself and have a greater rate of success after Ice Cream Sandwich and Jelly Bean is out and in use. The highly anticipated honeycomb update from 3.0 to 3.1 created problems of "bricking" etc--that really concerned me, since I am not one that wanted to "patch, jailbreak, etc," to work around the problem.

    I returned the android for an Ipad2. The user interface-is simply more reliable, stable and user friendly for me. I can rely on my wifi connection anywhere in my house. That was an issue for many with the other tablet. I liked the a500, but did not feel entirely comfortable with what I needed to do to make things work. With the Ipad2-the process is seamless and easy. All things are apparent on this system compared to my former.
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    Most of your points are exactly why I went with the iPad2. I was pretty much set on NOT buying an iPad since I wanted the "freedom" of the more open Android OS. However, research and feedback pushed me towards the Apple tablets. Even though Ive only had mine for 24 hours, I KNOW I made the right decision.

    The biggest problem I have with the iPad2 is the fact that my two daughters and wife are already fighting over who gets to use it. I told them to go buy their own..... hehehehehehe :D
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    S2mikey--that is funny, you really should get one for EACH of them...Xmas is coming soon! They really would love it! I love mine. I found it very funny that when I purchased the a500, I realized that even though it had flash support-it could not play those dreaded, beloved games on Facebook: Farmville, Cityville, etc!! What a ruckus this created for many android users who purchased it in order to play some of their beloved games. There were many posts on the android forums as to work arounds for this. I go on this forum, and I see nothing about Farmville. Maybe it is passe for our apple fans and they have now moved on to Dragonvale!! Anyways, glad that you made your decision, and hope the best for our OP, Toglenn!
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    Oh Im sure I'll end up with one more.... but that'll be enough! ;)
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    I've had my IPAD2 for a week. it was a gift to me and I almost sold it. I am a huge fan and follower of all things Android. I am also a PC person. I have always hated the idea of Apple because of their ideals. They shoved it down our throats by offering great products/services only to coddle us in this almost communistic approach of "We know you love this and we want you to use this but if you try to do it your own way, we'll kill you". So for that I swore off EVER purchasing an apple product. I have never owned an IPOD, IPHONE, ITOUCH...heck, I don't even like to use the letter "i" in sentences. My colleagues think I am a moron because I used to say things like "Me want to know if Me should bring this to meeting"; they thought I was stoned.

    Than last week came...the gift. When I first saw it I used a pair of salad tongs to maneuver it around my table, almost as if touching it would pass some disease equivalent to Lepersy onto me. I heard my Android phone having a combination of crying and violent fits towards my direction. The little green Android Mascot appeared before me right in my kitchen and killed the person who gave me this blasphemous gift (It was my wife's 80 year old Grandmother, she's in a better place now). I scolded Droidy and sent him back to Androida to chill and let me work this out. I instantly had thoughts of the Motorola Xoom. I researched online only to confirm my suspicions - the Xoom was the superior tablet. 10.1" screen, Flash, FREE Android Market. I knew the shape of evil now, an apple, and I detested it even more than before.

    Over the next couple of days I came to realize that all of my local retailers were out of stock on the Xoom. I took the evil, Devil made tablet to work and showed it off to some mates I have here and offered it up at $550. Not bad for a brand new boxed 64GB IPAD2. Retail is $700. One of my co-workers told me to give Apple a chance, that it was a great OS with great features. I proceeded to ram his IPhone into his face and removed several of his front teeth in the process (I told security a guy in a green robot suit did it and they passed that lead onto the police). Still I felt bad, and after leaving his hospital room that night I thought I owed it to him to try this hellish machine out.

    I went home prayed to my Lord for advanced forgiveness against the sin I was about to commit (now this is not your ordinary Jesus I am talking about here, it’s a picture of the Android Robot I have hanging in the bathroom). I unpacked the IPad2 only to curse and spit vile in its direction at the thought of having to d/l ITunes 10 in order to set this thing up. What the heck kind of nonsense is this??? I have to soil my PC with (vomit) Apple Software in order to get a USB Transfer going to fire this puppy up?!?!?!? Okay, I'll do it.

    Once I had the tablet up and running, I continued my tirade against all things apple due to the weakness of Safari. I am, after all, a seasoned Firefox expert. Safari is weak and I laugh at its very existence almost as an NFL Linebacker would a midget wrestler threatening him with violence. I surfed the web and found all of the useful ways to set this IPad up including MobileMe, Dolphin HD Browser (piss off Safari) and Netflix. It was my local cable providers app that sold me. I can actually watch everything I pay for including any of the 3 DVRs in my house right on the IPad. I can mess with my kids with the cable box virtual remote control and turn the cable box off on them - this machine is evil, but in a good clownish kind of way. As the next few days rolled by, I have realized a few things:

    I love Android
    I will always hate the ideals of Apple
    Pizza is not as good unless you put some anchovies on it
    The IPad2 is a pretty kick-ass tablet and I am proud to own one

    RIP Steve Jobs, thanks for making a great tablet even though your former company is a bunch of communists.

    Best,

    Me
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    I'll be honest. I have an Android phone (EVO 4G) and absolutely love the thing. I couldn't picture using an iPhone at this point, but do have an iPad 2.

    I got my iPad2 through work though (when the company is buying, I'm not going to complain), and it's alright for what it is. I wasn't expecting a laptop replacement or anything. Some things in the OS baffle me, and honestly the entire thing seems "dumbed down" to me (for lack of a better word). I do consider myself very technical. Well, I am technical given my coding/development/systems analyst job. I just don't like being told what I can and can't do (like I'm nearing 40 and I think as an adult I can decide whether or not I want to view Flash or not, and don't need Apple making that decision for me, as just one example). I don't like being made to feel like I'm an idiot who can't handle my electronic devices (which is what their policies make me feel like).

    My biggest complaint by far is only being able to use 1 signature for all my emails. As a person with 8+ email accounts for various projects and companies I work for, it's a real pain. I haven't updated to iOS 5 yet (will tonight), but I can't find that this mentioned as being addressed (I'm still hoping it is, even though I can find no mention of it in the iOS 5 features). That's just horrible horrible horrible design and something simple that email programs have done since the inception of email and the concept of having more than one email account.

    I have a list of complaints about iOS as long as my arm, which I won't detail. But I also have a similar list about Android. Both OS's have their pluses and minuses. As for apps, I've found the same apps (or equivalents) on both for everything I need to do, so that's a wash for me.

    Like I said, though, it is what it is. It works great for what I figure the majority of people need. Checking email, surfing the web, reading the news, watching some videos, etc. Which is really what tablets are for.

    Personally, I'm looking at getting and Android tablet for personal use (looking forward to Ice Cream Sandwich). How I function personally, the Android OS suits me better. I like the "freedom" of not being told what I can and can't do with it, etc. I use an Android phone and Google products (Gmail, Picasa, the cloud services, Google Docs) and it all just suits me and my lifestyle better. The integration with Google products is pretty great, actually. I also really just feel iOS is playing a bit of catch up for what I've already done on my phone: like the camera icon on the lockscreen....I've had that and more (like a direct dial to my wife) on my lockscreen for a year+. It's another instance of Apple telling me I should have a camera icon there, but not letting me put other things I may want. Again, the "dumbed down" issue I have with being told what I can have and can't have. Same with the keyboard (why do I have to use the keyboard Apple wants me to use and I can't use Swype or something else?). I also like to customize out the wazoo, and after playing around with my Android phone, the screens of icons irks me to no end. I like to be able to change my lockscreen and even the unlock slider and pretty much everything else about it from the dock to using a different icon for Facebook or Angry Birds if I want (just for some examples, here's ~4700 pages of customizations people have done, some good, some bad, (and a lot of half-naked women) but the possiblities are endless and you can really personalize your device, which I like.

    Not that I am giving up my iPad2 of course, because I do like it. It's the best tablet out there IMO, but Ice Cream Sandwich should somewhat close that gap as my issues are definitely more with the OS than the hardware. At least I hope ICS is what they are promising, or I won't be getting an Android tablet after all.
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    My daughter has an Android phone as well, and loves it too.
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    I love my Droid Bionic phone as well. Still love my iPad2 for the things that it does so well.

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