iPad vs HP Slate

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    The HP Slate is starting to look pretty good. I currently have the iPad WiFi 64GB and have a iPad 3G 64GB on order. After reading this article and getting a glimpse of the Slate I think I will cancel the 3G and wait for the Slate.. i know I'll end up with one anyway, why have three mini iPads around. The Slate has much more options I like, such as an optional pin digitizer support, three times more RAM, two cameras, more optional ports.. Gee, is this a no brainer folks?? So far I see the Slate bringing a lot more to the table. What are your thoughts after reading the linked article below???? Anyone else having second thoughts with their future 3G iPads on order?

    HP Slate to cost $549, have 1.6GHz Atom Z530, 5 hour battery? -- Engadget
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    Well, first it has a Win O/S - just a personal bias, but that alone would keep me from buying it.

    With O/S 4, the iPad user interface would be killer and do everything I need a travel system to do.

    It is cheaper - but it was a side by side comparison between a HP and Apple laptop that converted me to Apple - I think a side-by-side comparison between these two would yield the same "no-brainer".

    There are far more apps and farkles for the iPad.

    Apple's customer service is stellar - and they speak english

    Need I go on??
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    OK, lets look at the comparison. HP- smaller screen, trying to run a full OS(?) on a tablet. It has more RAM, but is it needed? Apple has SD card support and it may eventually get USB support through the camera kit. The only real thing I see is that it is a touch screen netbook. It does not have bluetooth, and definitely is not going to be up to the standards that Mac people expect. I hope the Slate does well, but I predict that G2 iPad may go with 1 GB RAM and a few other additions as necessary. A USB port or software to allow the Camera Connection Kit to serve as a USB port would be a positive thing.
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    So it's a year from now - you're online looking for apps that are custom made to fit your HP slate - you can find dozens. For the iPad there are tens of thousands.

    You go into Best Buy - decide you need a power adapter and perhaps a new case. You can't find any - only thing you can find are iPad supplies.

    Your new car as an option to purchase a 'cut-out' / 'slide-in/ for the next gen of iPads - with gps tracking, etc. For the HP there is an option to have an aftermarket plug installed by the 'geeks' - then you can sit your HP Slate on the seat next to you for gps.

    Get the picture?
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    I'll take the seamless integration and compatibility of my Apple products.
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    A few things turn me off:

    If connected to the Internet, won't it need a firewall and some anti-virus protection? If so, that is an extra cost to the owner. I guess that could be by-passed by using the firewall that comes with Windows and installing a free anti-virus program. But still, the machine is not going to be bullet-proof.

    I am not familiar with Windows 7, but if it is anything like Vista and prior incarnations of Windows, the OS is going to need owner maintenance (defragging, etc.), possibly re-installations when the OS starts getting cranky.

    1GB of RAM to run Windows and some Window-based applications. That doesn't sound like enough RAM.

    The screen is smaller, but it has essentially the same weight as the iPad.

    Half the time of a battery charge.

    Some positives:

    If it can run programs with 1GB of RAM, it definitely has more possibilities than an iPad.

    Brand recognition.

    Possibly price.

    Wider user base.
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    LOLOLOL
    Some of you Apple Kool-Aide drinkers crack me up.

    The IPAD is a really big IPOD / toy.
    The Slate apparently actually runs an operating system and may be an actual computer.

    If you want a big IPOD / toy, like I did when I bought my IPAD, then its wonderful. If you want a computer then you dont want an IPAD.

    For the first time last night I ran into an IPAD wall. I was trying to do a web search and kept getting frustrated by the lack of precision and alternatives that the touch interface forces me into. I finally gave up and went to a computer and did the search in a matter of seconds.

    Not the fault of the IPAD, but my fault for momentarily forgetting its NOT a computer and lacks a real, useful working interface.
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    HP Slate:

    Pros: faster proc, silmilar pricing, standard USB support, camera (depends on who you are if this is a pro)

    Cons: Thicker, heavier, half the battery life, faster process that will be killed by windows, while it has a touch layer it is a mouse based os, not fast enough to run any of the applications you really want it to run, while it may have flash it is still yet to be seen how well it will run. The only promo we've actually seen so far showed a bunch of fake screens and what looked like real UI that was very slow and choppy.

    I wouldn't hold your breath for this to be better than iPad. By the time this this finally comes out iPad will be on os4 and it will be even more powerful than it is now.

    Oh wait, I almost forgot the biggest con.....it's made by hp!
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    Call it kool aid all you want. I have over 20 years using PCs.There is no way I'm going back to them for my daily computing. But don't worry I won't try and convince you, I learned long ago that the only thing that will do that is hands on experience and an open mind.
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    Spoken like a true hater that doesn't have an iPad. Use one daily and you will understand. And since when is an os other than mac or windows not a real os.
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    It looksnto me like an updated Samsung Q1 ...... No thanks ......

    I'm a windows guy on my desktop, tried Mac, and just not for me. But, for my portables, it's iPhone and iPad. iPad is by far the best. If that makes me a "kool-ade" drinker in your eyes, then you can kiss my raspberry flavor packet.
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    I left the Window fam because of too many crashes, problems, etc. I find it funny to see so many critiques of the Ipad like it is the 4th run in the product life cycle. It might not be perfect but the UI cant be beat by anyone, not now and certainly not a year from now. This forum is not intended for bashing. As far as kool aide is concerned, I just ordered me some more.
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    For years, and years, and years the Apple / Mac line has always been the highest rated, more efficient and most preferred of computing platforms - both desktops and laptops - bar none. The problem has been that the units cost a LOT more than the plethora of PC's that are out there. When the netbooks started coming out over the past year - priced at around $500 - they became popular very fast.

    Now that Apple is back in the market with a competitively priced item - the PC world should watch out.
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    Windows = Crashes
    Slate = Windows

    Therefore, Slate = Crashes

    I will not purchase. Please pass me another cup of Apple Kool-Aid while you reboot your OS.
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    The iPad is not a toy, but it is not a full computer. I see the problem with the Slate as trying to be a full computer on a tablet. The whole idea of the iPad is to simplify the functions a majority of us use a laptop for. And to provide a better experience for us old farts that do not have the fingers and eyesight for a iPod Touch. Five years from now, every function that is done on a laptop may be easily done by a iPad, Ten years from now, we may not need fingers to type, scroll, or press buttons. However, for now, the iPad is the next movement in the advancement of personal computing. And if you think that the iPad is just a toy, then look at the HP Slate and the projected tablets from Microsoft, Google, and many others.

    There may be those who do not think that the iPad is a computer, just as many did not think the iPhone or Touch would cut it. But Apple's competition has all but admitted that they have missed the boat on this one too.
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    No so fast Mr. Moderator...

    From someone who has been using 2 (64) Ipad's since the 3rd I think he has some valid points. Battery life is a non issue - as soon as we see multiple threaded environments (IE - allowing full pull email, web sites pulling in the background etc...) our 8 to 10 hours of battery will fall into the 5's IMO. 5 hours on a device like this (Slate/Tablet) is enough to get me across the country on most accounts. I'm not saying that I will put up with less than 8 to 10 hours of battery life but if I must have full computer functionality that will be one of the trade offs.


    The primary reason I take one of my Ipad's virtually everywhere I go (and my mifi) is the battery life of the Ipad combined with its form factor.

    Right now the IBOOK app is the Killer app and what keeps me coming back to using the Ipad. I'm not in love with browsing on the Ipad - it's form factor is great but I find the glare and small print (unless zoomed) can be tiresome to my eyes.

    Ipad = Toy - Sure -- why not. It's one of the most enjoyable Toy's/Gadgets that I have owned in some time. Ipad= Computer -- Not quite but if you are not in need of a computer you get amazing battery life, light weight and so far what appears to be good fit/finish and like another poster mentioned a cohesive experience.




    To the OP -
    So far the HP looks to be the best of the bunch in terms of spec's - I look forward to checking one out. It sounds like a reasonable thing to do if you already have one Ipad to wait on your 2nd to see what these (lets call them 2nd or 3rd gen Tablet PC's) have to offer.



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    Who cares whether or not the iPad is a "real" computer. If it works for you, buy it. If the HP works, buy that. I appreciate the fact that the vender's are now building different devices for different people.

    It used to be that you could only buy desktops. Then "portables" came a long. By the way, take a look at the first "portable" computer that I used to carry around in the early 90's Compaq Portable - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Then laptops, notebooks, and netbooks, Palm Pilots, iPhones, and now the iPad.

    Now we have lots of choices. Microsoft just announced the Kin phones. They look lame to me, but maybe some teenagers will like them. Is that bad? Should we criticize them for choosing them? No. Buy what works for you.

    What I think will kill the HP Slate is the lack of apps, or rather, the only apps that will run on it are regular windows apps.

    The tablets to watch (besides iPads), are the ones that will run Android. The number of Android apps is increasing very quickly, so a tablet running the Android OS could be as popular as the iPad.
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    This very much depends on your usage. If you need to carry a computer around then the HP is a no brainer. You will not have to make any compromises regarding access to your business tools. It mimics a traditional OS very well in addition to increasing portability, coolness, and fun.
    If you find that you are not in need of a “full” computer, the Ipad is the better deal. With the Ipad you get a few important components of a computer with the following bonuses: great battery, good resale, apps galore, great fit and finish.
    1. Business man in a high profile data driven environment not requiring much “artistic” ability gets the HP.
    2. Sales person, photographer or anyone else who’s job has an element of art gets the Ipad
    3. Anyone that wants a fun gadget gets an Ipad.

    Finally no one ever seems to mention this but the Ipad 3g is going to have the best internet access plan on the market (U.S.). If the HP had the same plan I would be in a very hard place.
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    How can everyone knock the Slate so much when it isn't even close to being released yet. Comparing the iPad to the Slate isn't the same as comparing a Notebook to a MacBook. The Slate runs a full blown OS and the iPad runs a SmartPhone OS. Sure the iPad is a lot slicker but the Slate will be able to do more. Also the Slate runs Windows so it doesn't need an Apps store. The same programs that will run on your desktop will run on your tablet. Hopefully in a few years the iPad will be running OS X as well.

    The big question to answer here is: how is the Slate's WiFi?
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