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IPAD on Belkin N+

Discussion in 'iPad General Discussions' started by clrk9000, Nov 29, 2010.

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    My Ipad will connect on Belkin N+ using WPA/WPA2 but will lose its WIFI connection after it sleeps.

    I discovered that using WEP128bit, it will work perfectly and will recover WIFI Connection perfectly after waking up.

    I had been using this setup for 2 days now, ZERO issues, just perfect.

    DISCOVERED ALSO, my Apple TV behaves the same as my IPAD. It now could recover its WIFI connection from sleep.

    Everything just works perfectly now.

    Belkin N+ has the newest firmware 2.01.08
    IPAD iOS 4.2.1. (8C148)

    I am using WEP 128 Hex now because I don't want to keep on restarting WIFI ON and OFF just to recover from Sleep.

    My only concern now is that WEP is easily hackable.
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    I know you pay all this money for the iPad and it doesn't work ver frustrating. Apple needs t do a better job! I am starting to see the quality of their continually go down.
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    Welcome to the forum, both of you!

    Pirchryn, do you have an iPad?

    Just wondering since it seems like you don't know its build quality. If you have an iPad, what have you found on your iPad that would deteriorate your opinion of Apple?

    Yes, you are entitled to your opinion but reading about the iPad versus actually owning one and using one AND basing your opine on actual use, is far more credible.

    Sorry clrk9000, I didn't mean to highjack your post...you were saying....
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    I don't think it is the iPad. I use WPA2 with no problem at all on my iPad. No issues with it waking up and getting back in wifi. Don't have to restart wifi for it to work.

    These are generally issues on the router side. I don't have a Belkin, I have a Cisco, and it is highly customized for media sharing and remote desktop and Splashtop and FTP access. Computers, especially Windows, can compensate for fluctuations with a router, especially if it is a "zero setup" router, however other devices cannot.
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    I had the same issue with my N+ router and I purchased a dual band netgear router. Zero issues whatsoever since the new router. You may want to look into a different router.
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    I agree with this one. I use WPA2 at home and at the office. No issues whatsoever on waking up. Im using a CISCO and and a LINKSYS.

    My iPAD recognizes them immediately .
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    Yes I own an Ipad just frustrating that I have to reconfigure my router from WPA2 to 128 WEP. I have done so and it now works flawlessly, however I am disappointed with the IPAD needing to downgrade to older technology just for use. It cannot be the router side as I was using a wireless printer, macbook, iphone, blackberry, and tablet off the router without any problems. I think Apple needs to figure out why the IPAD is having issues with Belkin routers, it is not for the consumer who pays top dollar for their product to struggle with simple use.

    Just my two cents.
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    Well, I installed a Belkin wireless N Router last week and my iPad has no problems connecting to it what so ever. It also did perfectly fine with the linksys router I had before Belkin, that is until the router corked off on me.

    As far as Apples quality going downhill in general I strongly disagree. I also have an Apple Magic Mouse and a wireless keyboard (bt). Both are great.

    I would think if there is an issue connecting to your router that it might be related to interference from other wireless networks. I live in a very rural area and I'm still able to pick up one or two other wireless networks. My nearest neighbor is over a football field away.
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    Pirchryn, Why Should Apple Fix a Belkin Product?

    If I used your logic, every time a pothole appears on the streets of Fort Wayne, I should contact BMW to get the pothole filled because every time I drive over the pothole, it creates a problem for my car?

    Of course I could do what you did and change lanes or take another route that is a pothole free street (you reconfigured your router from WPA2 to 128 WEP) but the problem persists, the pothole remains, so I'm going to call the City of Fort Wayne and report the pothole. You might want to go to Belkin and see what they can do to update your router that they sold you.
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    Apple Ipad vs. Belkin N+

    With due respect to other posters, I believe the problem lies in Belkin N+ rather than the Ipad.

    I noticed also that changing the TIMEZONE while on WAP or WPA2 will cause the router to crash. Definitely, there is a bug in its firmware.

    ON WEP, I could change the TIMEZONE just perfectly without causing the router to crash.

    THIS OBSERVATION ONLY APPLIES TO BELKIN N+ and Apple Ipad setup.

    For information purposes, Belkin N+ and the Apple Ipad are running perfectly since Nov. 29 with ZERO issues.

    For those who have similar setup, Belkin N+ and Ipad ONLY, please do post your own observation.
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    I have exactly the same problem with Belkin N+ and iPad. It works fine when on-line, but when iPad wakes up, the WiFI connection is still there (in WiFi setting), but not working. I have always switch off WiFi, then switch it back on and then it is working fine until next sleep. I do not know if the issue is on iPad or Belkin side, but I really would appreciate if anyone could help me how avoid this issue.
    clrk9000: what is your config when it is working fine for you since NOV 29? I tried to change the settings on both Belkin and iPad but still having the same problem.
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    Use WEP

    Changing your security setting to WEP will solve the sleep wifi issue.

    Strangely, my 1st generation ipod touch with old OS works perfectly with Belkin N+ with both WAP and WPA security settings.

    Overall, Im very happy with my Apple goodies ie. Touch, ipad and Apple TV2g.

    BTW, I use Windows PCs and notebooks. Cant afford Mac :) seriously.
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    I also have a Belkin N+ and have the same issue with and 4G IPOD coming out of sleep mode. I don't notice this when the IPOD is on another wireless network. Seem consistant with the Belkin N+.
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    Yes, this is constant issue with WPA security setting. I switch it to WEP and works fine now.
    I would like to know if this is Apple or Belkin issue. Because my notebook with Windows works fine with Belkin & WPA, it looks it is an Apple issue. I hope Mr. Jobs will fix it in next iOS version.
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    Belkin N+ iPad prob

    I have owned an iPad for about 2 months and I have a Belkin N+ Vision Router controlling my home network, I have never had a problem with the connection to the iPad after sleep and I use WPA2 security setting.

    As some one else suggest in the thread if you don't experience problems on another network maybe there is some local interference in the location of the Belkin, if so, you can hardly blame Belkin! :rolleyes:
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    FYI the 802.11n spec states that you must use WPA2 or your connection reverts to G speeds.
    Also, unless your router is simultaneous dual band, if you have any device connecting to it via G, every device gets a G connection.
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    Upon reading the previous post, I checked my connection speed. Yes, I am now connected at G Speed only ie. 54mbps instead of N as the router specs. No wonder my Apple 2G stutters a bit while playing HD movies while I surf the internet at the same time. VERY BAD. :mad:

    I changed the security settings back to WPA2 and everything played smoothly but loses connection upon Sleeping applies to both Ipad and Apple TV2G.

    It is not my internet connection as I have a 10mbps internet connection.
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    That is true... Unfortunaly I have the same problem with my Belkin N+ and my Ipad. Downgrading to WEP is no option because of the safety and the speed downgrade. I think we have to wait for new firmware.

    I'am going to make a case by Belkin, please do it too so Belkin now that they have to build new firmware
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    Settings that may help

    In the "Wireless > Channel and SSID" options of the Belkin router, try setting "Protect Mode" to ON and also your wireless channel to something other than auto.

    I had the same problem of constant disconnects with a MacBook Air and an iPad before those changes were made.

    With those settings I was able to keep the WPA2 encryption enabled. Also experienced a significant internet speed boost on each device as well.

    Best of luck.
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    You have that so wrong the issue is many older wifi modems are not compatible or have issues with any of the latest devices Most people do not have issues. Unfortunately there is no one standard of n routers which creates havoc for some connections I recommend netgear as I have never had any real connection problems regardless what I connect to it. My installed base is more than 300 One has to make sure the security settings are correct as some devices including the ipad will not get a correct ip address

    Apple's quality is one of the best that is also evident by the highest satisfaction rate out of all manufactures of computers and mobile devices world wide

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