iPad live video INPUT

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    I agree with Dylanand. There are reasons why the ipad is needed for an external display. I am looking to use my ipad as an external Video display and it has nothing to do with just using it as a expensive monitor. It's that I'm using it in a mobile application. I have my Video camera mounted in my Jeep for off road filming. The ipad is mounted in my dash and needs to display what the video camera is capturing. So as you can see from my application needs, mounting another monitor in a vehicle is not exactly "practical" solution.

    If someone knows of an appropriate app or hardwire solution for this, that would be great!
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    I did read in another thread (cannot recall if it was here or elsewhere), that the dock connector does not have a pin for video input. Someone else can confirm.

    The only way to get live video feed in would be to use a camera capable of outputting as a web cam and using a web cam application to display said image. You would have to create a wifi network wherever you are.
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    No video input for the iPad 2, especially since an HDMI adapter is available, is just poor design. As many folks have pointed out, there are legitimate uses for the iPad as a monitor, and after purchasing the HDMI adapter yesterday, I was stunned to find out that A/V IN isn't an option.

    The iPad does many things well, but Apple misses the mark on important functions time and again. I'm sure I'll get hammered for saying it, but Apple letting competitors offer solutions that should already be available on Apple's devices is what led them into trouble in the 90's.

    Maybe the MS Surface will have A/V IN via HDMI. It would be enough for me to buy one....not that I'd ditch my iPad, of course.
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    I am interested in knowing what other tablets have AV in? Not that I'm disputing it, I'm just clueless about anything Android.
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    I believe one day every video out/in will be wireless via WIFI or some other technology, the wait will be over pretty soon...when someone make a DSLR/Camera that can connect to WIFI and send video out to an IP address in 720p quality...then an App can open that video live via IP and do whatever you want with it.

    I got a feeling if Cannon or Nikon don't do that...Apple might do it.
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    I've always been able to remote record on the sky+ app on my ipad2, but now all of a sudden it's not working. Does anyone know why?

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    In a similar application to MrPlumber, I would like to use my iPad 2 as a portable device for inspecting behind drywall in houses. A bore-hole / pin-hole camera with night vision plus white LED lighting for less than $50 only requires a hole to be drilled about 4 mm or 1/4 inch for inspection purposes, making it easy to plug up the hole in the drywall afterwards. These cameras do not have WiFi output, only a cable. The white LEDs are also powered via the USB cable. It makes no sense to lug around my MacBook Pro for the simple purpose of a video monitor and iMovie to record the inspection. The bore-hole / pin hole cameras come in two models: USB or Composite Video. It would be a real oversight if the USB Kit for the iPad2 were not capable of reading USB camera data from such a bore-hole camera, when it can read USB file data from an SD card or Digital Camera with a DICM file structure. I don't see the problem as being a hardware limitation but more of a software limitation. Nobody has been willing or able to write an APP for this type of application, most likely because the home-inspection market is not big enough to recover the development cost. However, if somebody does develop an APP to read USB camera data in real time from the USB Kit into the iPad 2, please let me know. Both MrPlumber and I would be your first customers. Thanks.
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    The largest obstacle to such a device is indeed a hardware obstacle. The iPad would be incapable of supplying enough power to operate such a device.
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    Reviving this thread since it was a real interesting read and I need a similar solution. Why didn't anyone react on the post above? I had the same thought as the poster... It clearly shows the badly wanted input is possible. If you can watch TV on your ipad (DVB-T) the next step would be to get rid of the antenna and connect an RCA video connector onto it through the use of a RCA to DVB-T connector which can be found on Alibaba for example. Dunno if it would work out of the box, but it should work. Same goes for the poster who suggested the AXIS M7001 video converter.. The super moderator stated "He doesn't want it on wifi, he needs a hardwire connection. How does this accomplish what he is looking for?" Well, if you'd use the apple ethernet connector for ipad you'd have your analog feed through the mini video converter, comes out as a data signal on utp cable, back in the utp receiver connected on your ipad. Still more elaborate than a direct link, but a relative small setup all in all. As long as you can translate an analog signal to data, it can be fed in the ipad, right? If you have the USB adapter for the Ipad, it could very well be as simple as an RCA to USB connectorEDITED Good luck!
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    Basically what would need to happen is for a developer to come up with a hardware/app combination to do what is required. Hardware alone won't do it because the software or programming is not in place to deal with a video signal, hence why an app is also required. A dongle that is programmed to take an analog signal and convert to digital before passing to the iPad is the scenario you are after. The iPad itself cannot do that.
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    I just registered to bringt the thread back to life again.
    I read all the solutions you posted and i'm looking myself for a solution about some weeks now.
    I just bought an iPad and want to use A/V or Composite inputs on my iPad. As you pointed out, there is no cable or adapter that will connect to the iPad directly and transmit the video into the iPad.

    But i think you all know the wireless DVB-T transmitters right? Like the Tivizen Nano or Elgato EyeTV W. They connect via Wi-Fi to the iPad and they do not require any internet connection.
    So you just power on the Tivizen Nano and you get live-TV over Wi-Fi to the iPad, without any other requirement.

    And now i just found the PCTV Broadway 2T, just google it. It can stream DVB-T to the iPad and miuch more important, it has composite input and can stream ANY composite / A/V-source to the iPad, you can connect a camera or a receiver or a ps3/xbox over composite to the Broadway 2T and it will stream the live Video to the iPad.
    The only negative thing is: IT REQUIRES A WLAN-ROUTER TO CONNECT TO :-(.

    So we have DVB-T Wireless-Streaming-Devices, which stream Video without any other requirement to the iPad and we have a Composite-Stream-Solution which require a WLAN-Router,
    WHY IS THERE NO DEVICE WHICH COMBINES BOTH?! Maybe some of you have heard of a device like that?

    A wireless Composite-Stream-Device which has the WLAN-Router built-in so it does not need any other hardware to stream the composite to the iPad?
    Come on :-(
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    You cannot have a dongle that will do the job of the Broadway as it needs some beefy processing and power requirements that the iPad cannot provide. Actually, this piece of hardware is a good solution for a number of people who have posted here in the past.

    I do not think needing a wifi network/router is a big deal as you pretty much need to have that anyway when using an iPad, especially the wifi only models.
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    Hallo, is it possible to use the left audio channel to bypass low video in. An than we only need a Programm witch make a live Video Screen from that "sound"....
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    I know how to do this. Not sure quality of video, but it should be marginally degraded from the source up to SVGA resolution(600 x 800). I am considering a kickstarter campaign to fund production, and would be interested in hearing how much support this would gather. Cost is expected to be $500 or less.

    Thanks,
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    You a day late and a dollar short. Teradek is already making a product to do this. The Teradek Clip is the most inexpensive solution that accepts and HDMI signal and transmits it to an IOS device or web browser via Wifi with a maximum latency of 4 frames, at 30 fps that not much (they even have their own app in the app store). It retails for $599. It was designed for unmanned aerial drones but has a practical use on the ground too. For a more professional application Teradek makes a step up model that will accept HD-SDI the Teradek Cube and it runs about $1200.

    Both of these devices can function with or without the use of a wireless router because they have the ability to create their own wifi network.
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    The new GoPro Hero 3 with built in wifi coupled with the ipad app will do it
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    Nice!
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    Hi guys,
    interesting conversation. I'm also looking for an iPad solution as we want to control the Canon 5D MK III 's vid settings (plus a liveview monitor) via an application. We're using it right now on ground level, in some years in mid-air (camera mounted on an octocopter).
    First of all, there is a solution coming (or at least I think so). The developer Chainfire from xda-developers already created a pretty cool App called "DSLR Controller", which lets you control your whole camera (USB or WIFI) - LiveView, shutterspeed, ISO, F-stop, time lapse, video.
    But: it's just for Android. You're able to control Canon cameras only. And it's still in beta....
    Some days ago I found a video on YT which shows Chainfire working on an iOS solution. :thumbs: He used a jailbreaked iPad mini, a 5D, Apple's camera connection kit and the camera's USB cable. As you can see he is already using the iPad as an external monitor - with about 30 FPS.
    You can find it here: youtu [.] be / Y21D2l2TL2I
    I know there are some other solutions like CamRanger or even Capture Pilot if you're using one of PhaseOne's IQ2 digital backs (lol) but I think DSLR Controller is the most powerful app in this segment.

    Sooo, I guess we will just have to wait and see until he releases it ;)

    Joshua
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    Ipad as video montior

    Teradyx out of grass valley has a wireless sender that your attached to any video camera through usb or hdmi it sends a closed wifi that your ipad can monitor in real time. Its expensive about $1200.00 you can be up to 300ft we use to monitor shots in car cases etc in real time.

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