iPad and laptop question, computer expert help needed (:

Discussion in 'iPad General Discussions' started by Nfs, Aug 15, 2012.

  1. Nfs
    Offline

    Nfs iPF Novice

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2012
    Messages:
    62
    Thanks Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0
    Hey guys, I have a question that I am unsure you will be able to help me with

    So my laptop has been playing up for a while now part of the reason why I wanted a iPad :)

    Where I bought my laptop they are advising me to get my laptop send back to factory settings, I am worried about doing this or even getting. A new laptop because of the fact that all my apple devices are synced with this laptop, (dam u apple for only letting our devices be connected to 1 laptop)

    So what my question is, will my devices remember my laptop after it bes reset to factory settings?


    If there is anyone out there that has had a problem and had to connect their iPhone or iPad to a new laptop could you tell me how you done it and what you lossed?

    Thanks in advance!
  2. AQ_OC
    Offline

    AQ_OC Super Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2011
    Messages:
    6,418
    Thanks Received:
    430
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Location:
    SC
    Ratings:
    +430 / 0
    No, it won't. Proceed with caution. There is a way to backup your itunes folder and restore it to a new laptop. Or you can backup to the cloud, but I'd advise doing both.

    If you google for backing up your itunes folder so you can transfer to another PC, you should find instructions.
  3. Nfs
    Offline

    Nfs iPF Novice

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2012
    Messages:
    62
    Thanks Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0
    Thank you for your reply, I will have to look this up and give it a go.. Is it very technical tho? Or would I be able to do this with general knowledge of computers?

    Maybe I should just look it up and try work that out for myself :) thanks anyway I will report back when I get round to this.
  4. Bosvaark
    Offline

    Bosvaark iPad Enthusiast

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2012
    Messages:
    388
    Thanks Received:
    10
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Cape Town
    Ratings:
    +10 / 0
    It can be tricky, but the iTunes folder lives in the music folder by default,
    The whole procedure is well documented on Apple support, the most important aspect are the steps to consolidate your iTunes media library.
    If media has been added to iTunes , those locations need to be the same when your laptop is restored.
    Media being:
    Mp3
    Movies
    Books

    Sometimes it is best to pay a consultant to do the whole laptop data backup and restore , including iTunes and then the restoration and synch of your devices.
    Having done this for clients it is generally a 2-3 hour job, depending how complicated their iTunes library is.
    Good luck , and double check your backups
  5. Gabriel1
    Offline

    Gabriel1 Super Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2011
    Messages:
    17,132
    Thanks Received:
    747
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Cranbrook, Kent, UK
    Ratings:
    +749 / 0
    One method, which I have used before, is to make a bootable clone of your laptops HD onto an external HD, then you can use any computer which can boot the clone and/or, transfer the bootable clone onto a new laptop. I do this anytime I get a new Mac and it has always worked like a dream.

    The Archangel
  6. Nfs
    Offline

    Nfs iPF Novice

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2012
    Messages:
    62
    Thanks Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0
    This had been running through my brain for so long, and my laptop is a disaster because it keeps crashing and turns off then can't turn it self back on.. This will obviously be a problem to try and do this back up, but I think I'm going to just give it ago because it is annoying me and I have another laptop that is perfect that I would rather have my devices connected to.

    What is the worst that can happen? I mean what is the worst thing I can loss?
  7. Gabriel1
    Offline

    Gabriel1 Super Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2011
    Messages:
    17,132
    Thanks Received:
    747
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Cranbrook, Kent, UK
    Ratings:
    +749 / 0
    The worst thing is that without any kind of backup then you would lose everything on your existing laptop. Of course, as you have a new laptop and assuming your problem with your existing laptop isn't related to the HD, then you could consider removing the HD and putting it in a caddy so that you can boot it directly from your new laptop. I don't know about windows but with a Mac you can boot one Mac's HD directly from another Mac without any kind of surgery.

    My advice would be to get in the habit of making regular bootable clones of your new laptop straightaway, it will save you going through this again in future

    The Archangel
  8. AQ_OC
    Offline

    AQ_OC Super Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2011
    Messages:
    6,418
    Thanks Received:
    430
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Location:
    SC
    Ratings:
    +430 / 0
    I agree with the Archangel. You need to learn to do good, regular backups anyhow. Now is the time to start.

    If you are going to get a new laptop, then keep your old one around (don't restore it to anything, leave it as is). It will have your itunes stuff on it. That hard drive can be used to transfer to your iTunes to your new computer, bring everything into the proper location from the old one to the new one. Basically, you would just connect the old hard drive from the old laptop to you new laptop via USB. You can start using your new laptop. Your old laptop doesnt need to die the minute you bring the new one home, so you have some time to work through this. Please don't feel you need to rush.

    I'd also consider doing a cloud backup too, so that all your apps have their data backed up (if you don't have a lot of actually data, you could just decide to nuke your iPad and reinstall all of it once your new laptop is up, but proceed with great caution on this). I don't like being tried to a single computer anyhow. I make sure my important stuff is accessible from some place other than iTunes, a pig of a program, at least on a Windows PC.

    Suns up. Gotta go wash my car!
  9. Nfs
    Offline

    Nfs iPF Novice

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2012
    Messages:
    62
    Thanks Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0
    I don't really know what is wrong with my laptop, but this other one I am going to be transferring to isn't mine, it is shared..

    I don't really know how to do this cloning that you are talking about, I am using a windows computer.. My old laptop is windows vista and the new laptop is windows 7 will this be a problem?

    I found this on the Internet and it sound more do-able in to me, I know some more than other people about computer, but not a great deal at the same time.
    How to move my iPhone back-up to a new PC - PC Advisor
  10. AQ_OC
    Offline

    AQ_OC Super Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2011
    Messages:
    6,418
    Thanks Received:
    430
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Location:
    SC
    Ratings:
    +430 / 0
    Very good. Yes, this should be exactly what you want, especially if you are not doing anything other than letting iTunes manage where your files are. iPhone, iPad, iPod...all the same as far as iTunes is concerned.
  11. Nfs
    Offline

    Nfs iPF Novice

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2012
    Messages:
    62
    Thanks Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0
    I have 2 iPhones and an iPad, all with different apps and things on them.. When I back them up on iTunes and then coping the iTunes folder over will it know this? Or will ALL my apps end up going on all my devices and then it is up to me to delete which ever ones?
  12. AQ_OC
    Offline

    AQ_OC Super Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2011
    Messages:
    6,418
    Thanks Received:
    430
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Location:
    SC
    Ratings:
    +430 / 0
    It should keep it all in tact. However you need to be careful that you don't change the settings on the new iTunes and that you have things set up correctly in the current iTunes. That latter concern of your has been an issue for me in general with iTunes.
  13. Nfs
    Offline

    Nfs iPF Novice

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2012
    Messages:
    62
    Thanks Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0
    I'm going to try it out anyway, I already have iTunes installed on the new laptop, there may be some music saved in the library should I just delete everything of it and start fresh?

    Should I also transfer purchases from all devices onto iTunes on the new laptop incase I loss them or will this create a problem?
  14. AQ_OC
    Offline

    AQ_OC Super Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2011
    Messages:
    6,418
    Thanks Received:
    430
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Location:
    SC
    Ratings:
    +430 / 0
    Apps are no problem, you can get than back easily, as you can music, movies, and books that you have bought. But your data is what you need to back up, as well as any music, movies you have ripped.

    I say give it your best shot.
  15. Nfs
    Offline

    Nfs iPF Novice

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2012
    Messages:
    62
    Thanks Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0
    What do u mean by data? Do u mean like contacts or just files that help the computer remember the iPhone?

    Sorry for so many questions :/
  16. AQ_OC
    Offline

    AQ_OC Super Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2011
    Messages:
    6,418
    Thanks Received:
    430
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Location:
    SC
    Ratings:
    +430 / 0

    Let's say you bought Pages (a word processor designed for the iPad by Apple). If you had created a letter or some other type of document, that would be data for Pages. It would be your work.

    Let's say you play games and have saved your progress and would like to restart there when you start up again. Or your email / txt messages or iMessages messages. Basically, anything you create on your iPad/iPhone using the Apps that either come with it or you buy. Those things cannot be recovered unless you back them up. Your apps that you buy, your movies or music, that you bought from iTunes, can all be redownloaded pretty much anytime you like, so you don't have to save that (you might have to save your place in a book though, so be careful there). T

    Since I don't really know what you have been doing on your iPad I've been trying ensure that you don't lose anything important. But if you have no real data, or you're confident you can live without any thing you have created, then you can just forget about data. It would mean you'd be starting fresh on your new iTunes.

    I'm assuming that you have something you want to protect which is the reason you are transferring your old iTunes over to your new laptop.
  17. Nfs
    Offline

    Nfs iPF Novice

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2012
    Messages:
    62
    Thanks Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0
    Aww , well I have all my documents backed up, I don't care about messages tbh I'd get over that lol.. I would care about my game process tho and I don't have any books on my devices..

    Thank you so much for all your help! I will give this a try next week or the week after and I will report back :) finger crossed all will work out! :/
  18. Nfs
    Offline

    Nfs iPF Novice

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2012
    Messages:
    62
    Thanks Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0
    Hi guys so i thought i would report back and possibly help other people out. I went about doing this a different way and followed this https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-3141 I didn't have to use the third party programs because i had my old computer of which i done transfer purchases to it and a back-up just in case, I then went on to follow the other steps, I did not do step 2 and my contacts transferred over fine and I also did not need to follow step 9. All the data stayed the same on my phone as it was i did not loss anything, all contacts, messages, apps and game process all fine! When I plug my iPhone into the new computer it does not display the warning message that it will need to erase all my data because it is now connected the new laptop :) everything is great for my phone..

    But I tired following the same steps in this link for my iPad but it is not working out so great because once i have restored it and it has restarted it self it displays the annoying warning message that my iPad is synced with another computer and it will erase everything :( maybe there is different steps i need to take for the iPad, would anyone be able to help me with this?
  19. corncob
    Offline

    corncob iPF Novice

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2012
    Messages:
    15
    Thanks Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Inglis, Florida
    Ratings:
    +1 / 0
    And dam u apple for not having a Linux version of iTunes! Actually, I just went into my windows partition which I almost never use. First thing iTunes had me do was download the latest version. It then asked for my apple username and password so that it could register this computer so I could sync my iTunes with all my other computers. It then said that I now have two of my five computers registered. The other registered computer is apparently my wife's -- I did have 3 more although one is turned off and the other 2 were given away although after iTunes had seen them on the network. Anyway, I'm left with the impression that updated iTunes will sync itself among all the registered computers on your network.
  20. Bosvaark
    Offline

    Bosvaark iPad Enthusiast

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2012
    Messages:
    388
    Thanks Received:
    10
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Cape Town
    Ratings:
    +10 / 0
    One of the main reasons of iTunes is to manage your idevices, media purchased and of course apps purchased, it does this rather well, and backups / restoration.
    Tip: when you setup the new iDevice , it starts a synch and backup then tracks your app updates and device backups.
    So migrating to a new computer involves copying the itunes library, and setting up iTunes from scratch, then connecting to the copied old library and then synching the iDevice so the new iTunes and iDevice are happy.

    Of course the library needs to be consolidated ( indexed ) prior to the move, so it knows where your apps , media etc are located.
    If however you are unable to migrate the library due to computer failure , then essentially you start from scratch with a new iTunes.

Share This Page