I noticed the thread was closed.

Was it closed because Lexx911 was getting flamed or because he had an opinion that was a bit negative?

My opinion is this is a forum: "An Internet forum, or message board, is an online discussion site".

I personally think the IPad is pretty darn good but I also think Lexx911 is entitled to his opinion. I also think this is a great forum!

Let's keep this forum open to discussion without bashing dissenting viewpoints and adding mean spirited comments. OK?

Lexx911: I also pretty much agree with what you said.

I agree that everyone is entitled to their opinion without being bashed or attacked. We don't all have to agree with what others say or feel about any subject, but we should be respectful. Treat others as you would want to be treated.

JMHO

I agree that internet surfing on the iPad is MUCH worse than any other device in my house. Safari or the iPad or something doesn't render pages quickly. So where on my desktop, sharing the same connection, or my wife's laptop, sharing the same connection a thread with 100 replies (I have my Corvette Forum set to 100 replies per page but you can't do that here) takes 30+ seconds just to load. It does the same thing on my phone, so in the iPad's defense this is typical for a mobile device.

In addition I get severe keyboard lag whenever there are animated 1KB smiley faces on the page which causes me to take twice as long to type something as it usually would. Also very annoying.

I also find it entertaining when people do zero research on something before they buy it, and instead of returning it, they come online to bitch about all the things they hate about the the product they knew nothing about. Some people just belong on the short bus, that's life.

Hey, I knew what I was getting in to. It's not a deal breaker for the iPad, I was just mentioning that it is less satisfying on the iPad than on a real computer. BUt nothing worth returning it for.

I didnt close it, while I completely disagreed with his statement and thought he was out of line coming on this forum with vitriol I respect that other people are entitled to their own opinions..I wouldn't close a thread or delete one unless it was offense to other members or spam.

Sorry, that wasn't directed at you, I was talking about that Lex911 guy .

Of course no device is going to please absolutely every single customer....but if there's something that's clearly a deal breaker, like not have Flash, then people should return the device or not buy one in the first place .

Since I was one of the respondents to his OP, I'll address this from my view: I didn't attack the guy, I countered his points (such as they were) individually. This is a discussion forum, but discussion means it's a Read/Write medium, not Write-Only. Expect responses and be prepared to defend your opinion intelligently. All Lex could do is sputter and run.

I'll throw this tip out there for free: grousing about Apple not supporting Flash is an indefensible position. Apple has been clear about the fact they aren't supporting it and why, the media has pounded on this point repeatedly - to buy an iPad and complain that Flash isn't supported is like going to Red Lobster and complaining about all the shellfish on the menu. It's just plain stupid. And I'll concede I've got a low tolerance for stupid.

The iPad has its foibles and its limits - the more I use it, the more I run across. I'm more interested in hearing how people are getting around them, pushing them, or exceeding them than griping about them, and that's a strength of this forum, which is why I hang out here. Giving 7 reasons it sucks, which is really only two reasons (no Flash and Safari) of which 1 is easily fixable (get. another. browser!) and the other fundamentally insurmountable (get. another. COMPUTER!) doesn't strike me as much of a contribution.

Plus Juan......see, some people DO belong on the short bus.

Well most flash videos are covered....as for flash content sites...when I encounter one I log in to my mac pro at home and use Chrome....problem solved...quit yer bitchin...lol

Any real company that has a website will convert their flash content sites to HTML5. That will be the case unless they're completely brain dead and don't want people to see it on most mobile devices and the iPad.

Basically. I see Flash support as a temporary issue. As the market of non-Flash devices increases, more websites will chase that market. iPhones and iPads are used by an affluent market segment, a demographic businesses are keenly interested in - they'll come around rather than miss out on reaching millions of potential customers. I've already contacted 2 companies I used to buy from and explained that I've had to drop them because their websites are unusable without Flash, pointing out how much I've spent with them in the past. I've also made it a point to contact companies writing useful apps - I wish every network had an app like ABCs, and told them so.

I actually believe that surfing the web is great on the iPad.. In my house it's as fast as my MacBook pro.. And when I'm out and about and using 3G from AT&T it's still pretty fast..

Agree wholehearted epb.
There's an honest mistake and there's native stupidity.

Like the guy who loaded those thousands of books on his iPad. What did he expect?
You don't mix concrete in the back of your wife's car........

The connections are as fast but the renderings are slow as hell. So if it's as fast as your MacBook that just tells me that your MacBook is slow as hell too.

Well that actually may be the case too, after thinking about it I realized that my unibody MacBook at my office does work so much faster than my MacBook pro at home..