Can't locate Ipad3 anymore

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  1. Lepapehermann

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    The localisation service doesn't work anymore on my Ipad and on my wife's Ipad.
    It used to work on both, don't know what changed!

    Plans can´t locate me, Find my friends can't locate me etc...

    Whoa....I noticed that stepping out of the house the service would start to work again.
    Coming back into the house the localisation service stop working immidiately, "impossible to locate"!!
    Bluetooth is enable, wifi is enable.

    My wifi network is working correctly....I even did a router reset to make sure the problem was not caused by the router.

    Help!!
    Any idea why this is happening and how to correct it???
     
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    Did you change router's, network names, or ISP's recently?
     
  3. Lepapehermann

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    No, everything is exactly the same.
     
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    This is my best guess.

    Wi-fi only iPads tell their location by checking nearby wi-fi hotspots against Apple's location database. It sounds like your wi-fi network was never recorded. Instead, you were probably being located based on one of your neighbor's wi-fi networks, and they changed or removed it. Now you have to go outside, where you can see more networks, for the iPad's to find themselves.

    If you own iPhones this should eventually correct itself. Apple collects anonymous location data from their GPS capable devices and adds it to their location database, but it can take a while. They use other methods as well, but I have no idea if those are likely to capture the necessary data in your neighborhood.
     
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    Yes I own a wifi only Ipad, I live outside of town and the only available wifi network is mine, I can see one neighbor's network but it is a secure network and I never connected to that network.

    When I go outside I don't have access to any other network just mine, it looks like the gps may be the key factor here.!!!

    Can you expand on "wifi hotspot?"

    How can I get my wifi recorded with Apple?
     
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    Your wi-fi iPad can locate itself using the neighbor's wi-fi, even if it is secure, even if you've never been on it. All it does is pull the SSID (it's identifier) and compare it to Apple's database. No need to actually be on the network.

    The only way I know of to get your wi-fi in Apple's database is to own and use a GPS enabled iOS device, or have your friends with iPhones over to visit a few times. Then wait, wait, wait. Maybe a few more friends, some wine, cheese, or other entertainment while you wait.

    If there is a manual method, I've never heard of it.

    In this instance I was using wi-fi hotspot and wi-fi network interchangeably. There is probably some nit-picky definition of each somewhere, but in this case it doesn't matter.
     
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    Thank you very much for your help, it is appreciated.
    So it looks like my only solution is to wait.........that's what i will do.
    Effectively I have friends coming over and using their Iphones, time will tell.:)
     
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    Good luck. Let us know what happens. The last person with this issue (he changed his router) took about three weeks before his location services started working at home again. That's a very rough guess. I don't have the actual times.

    Hold in mind that he owned an iPhone, so that probably helped.
     
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    OK, I will update this thread when I am back alive!
     
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    Hi TP - I've been reading on Apple's localization methods ever since buying my first iPad back in 2011 - we've owned only Wi-Fi enabled devices and our location (w/i a good size city) is pretty much 'spot-on' on maps and 'find my iPhone' - below quoted from one of Apple's online articles, just a summary of some of the various methods used in their location services - don't completely understand 'how' cell towers and iBeacons figured into this mix to set up their location database, but still an evolving technology?

    But as to the OP's issue, if his friends w/ iPhones visit his house, my assumption is that they would need to have their cellular/GPS features activated but also connect to his home Wi-Fi network so that his house can be localized? Not sure that my thinking is correct here but if so, then a requirement for this to work for him? Dave :)


     

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