Can I hack or jailbreak to get the arrow keys? (+flash?)

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  1. orish

    orish iPF Noob

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    I really need the arrow keys! I do a lot of editing of small bits of text in multiple languages (which often means switching keyboards for different character sets).

    Despite several months of experience, I find the maginifier method way too slow and cumbersome. I might just want to go back one or two letters (quicker to delete and retype!) or the previous word.

    I also often copy & paste test, which takes ages!
    1. Hold/pause -
    2. then fiddle about for a few seconds to get the right letters highlighted
    3. select copy/paste
    4. switch to another field/app
    5. spend a few seconds putting the cursor in the right place
    5. hold/pause
    6. paste

    This whole sequence usually takes me at least 10 seconds. If I do it on my PC, I can do it in 3 seconds flat.

    There's no point in using 3rd-party apps to type and then copy/paste them into another app, that also takes ages to faff around between apps.

    So the question is: how do I modify the keyboards to include additional functionality? How about a way to program certain key combinations (remember the original keyboards 'in the old days' had ctrl-cominbations to move the cursor or copy & paste?)?

    What kind of hacks are available to go in a alter the OS code at least temporarily between upgrades?

    I'm even thinking of jailbreaking my ipad if that will provide a solution.

    I already have another compelling reason to jailbreak my ipad, and that is so that I can use flash.

    I develop online educational products and we have decided that the best way to incorporate platform-wide content is to do it in flash. Many of my customers have iPads, so I will have to incorporate jailbreaking software and instructions with all our products if that becomes necessary.

    My personal rant:
    I'm more and more surprised every day I use the iPad how limiting it is. I never used Apple products before, but I thought they were designed to make things easier and more convenient - but I'm not impressed at all.

    I was going to switch all our PC notebooks to the new Macbooks, but I decided to just buy more Windows notebooks. I'm impressed with Windows 7 (but not at all with vista when it came out). I was frustrated with Microsoft in the past, but I have a new respect for them now.

    They try really hard to give users choice in how they want to work, not try to force people to comply with the system. In fact, I remember (in the 90's) that the main popularity and reason for Microsoft's success was that every other computer system forced you to work their way - and every system was different.

    I used to train people how to use their computer systems. In the end, I became a consultant who developed interfaces that worked according to the user's requirements and preferences. It seems that Apple has decided to go the way of Wang (does anyone still remember Wang????) and dictate to their customers how they should use their machines.

    Thank goodness there are android and other devices out there. Just as we all thanked IBM and Microsoft for allowing us to ditch the Wang wordprocessor and replace them with the more flexible machines.

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    PS I've been searching various forums for answers and found the "outdated thread" - I'm hoping someone would have come up with a solution by now. Yes, it's been a year since Apple refused to support flash. Is that going to change anytime soon? Is there any good reason why they shouldn't support it - in which case, how does one access flash-based sites - or is that something that (well-behaved) iPad users are expected never to want to do? And how does one develop browser/platform-independent audiovisual websites without using flash?
     
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  2. col.bris

    col.bris Administrator Staff Member

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    Welcome. Just curious do you usually come in to Forums ranting and raving about problems with out introducing your self sorry but your back ground states you are an IT specialist ....... Trainer etc. If you want answers to your question please respect this is a private forum ok.....We are here to assist

    Thank you.

    Oh one more thing..... I moved your post from an out dated thread. ...... only 4 months old
    It has been a know fact for 12 months almost that Apple does not support flash. It seems to me that you have the wrong platform to do what you want to do. If your customers have purchased iPads then you are the one with a problem developing your web site with flash only content. I will leave it to the experts on our forum to give you a heads up on what you need to do. As for discussions about windows vista, xp and 7 versa Apple OSx oh i forgot IBM and Wang Do that on another forum please.

    Ps My first computer was Apple II...

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    Oh look a dinosaur......
     
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    Agreed, iPad text editing is crap.
     
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    And I am more impressed every day on how my iPad (and now iPhone 4, thanks employer!) makes my life easier and easier.
    Having lived in the Microsoft world since I was but a young teen (and I'm approaching old geezer status now), when I got my first MacBook Pro I was amazed.

    Now that I am using the iPad I love the way that it interfaces better with alot of Micrososft products that my Windoze machines do.
    Yes, it may seem clunky at first but it is a just a mindset change and practice.

    Remember your first GUI? (I apologize if you have always had GUIs, us old f@rts like to cling to our memories.) I remember thinking, "Why can't I just type del *.bat to get rid of all those batch files?" Now, while I still love a good command line, I can whip around an Explorer window and clear files with ease.

    Remember, once you go Mac you'll never go back......
     
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    First my rant:

    Ok yes I am a dinosaur - I used to program Univac mainframes in assembler with punchcards, and even had access to the command console entering bits directly into the "registers". I hated it and moved as quickly as I could to a monitor (the thing with a keyboard and screen) and then became an expert into "mini" and "micro" computers, replacing corporate mainframes with PCs. I hated DOS and command line interfaces, instead developing interfaces that were menu or graphic driven (so that users didn't have to know unix or dos just to be able to write a letter).

    I always thought Apple was hugely innovative, so much more stable and cleaner than Microsoft. And I had been waiting for a tablet to become available for over five years, but could never find anything close to what I needed. Until the iPad. I waiting a few months before taking the plunge and - yes - I am impressed, it's kind of what I've been looking for all these years.

    Only to be puzzled and disappointed about some fairly 'obvious' functions that have been deliberately left out (e.g. to be able to listen to the audio in a PDF file); and the strange experience of having a machine that was very pretty but almost identical to the old application-centric DOS machines where each app was a world unto its own with no interconnectivity with other apps at all. Why is it for instance that I need several copies of the same document if I want to view it either in iBooks or Readdle or Goodreader?

    About flash. Can anyone advise me on how to design a browser-independent website with audio and graphic animation, without resorting to flash or a specific plug-in that has to be installed? At least as far as I know, flash has become ubiquitous (except for iPad/iPhone). I don't know why. I understand that Adobe has provided Apple with the source software and invited Apple to develop their own flash player if they want. Some personal grievance or is it senseless ideology?

    I don't understand the 'Apple' mindset. I'm not sure I like Microsoft either (so many levels just to get to a simple operation), but I have to respect them for trying. A Mac is also devilishly difficult to configure when you try to get into the guts of the machine!

    After all this, I just need an easier way to navigate around text on the iPad! I've discovered something called 5-row qwerty keyboard that might do the trick - it needs a jailbroken iPad. I don't want to jailbreak my iPad if I can help it - but I can't see a compelling reason why not to. And then I get both flash and arrow keys. Maybe I get to hear my ebooks being read out loud. And my kids get to play games on newgrounds too... :)

    The only problem is that I might need to persuade my customers to jailbreak their iPads if they want to use my courses. That might be sacrilege. If it was just me then I wouldn't care. But I need a more 'market-ready' solution.

    After all - and hats off to Apple - the iPad is hugely popular and I have many iPad owners wanting to follow my courses, but perhaps not enough to warrant a special version just for iPad. What I don't think Apple (Jobs) has realized is that customers nearly always find uses for a product that the manufacturer didn't originally intend. Despite the limitations and complexities of Windows, you can usually find a way to do what you want in the end.

    I'm open to ideas and suggestions. Please advise!
     
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    it's easy

    Learn how to use HTML5 / CSS3

    get over yourself
     
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    Ouch. Now that wasn't nice. Was it?:D
     
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    /facepalm

    And round and round it goes...
     
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    Got popcorn? I simply love White Cheddar. But I ate it all.:(
     
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    While I think that I cannot help you I apologize for the some of the rude attitudes here in this topic. Just ignore them.

    I want arrow keys as well......

    AFAIK there is no hack yet that will add them. as for Flash the only alternative out there is too jailbreak and installed what is called "FRASH". It is a crappy port of flash and buggy but if you must have flash then it is better than nothing I guess.
     
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    Kudos. Couldn't agree more.
     

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