BigBoss Cleaner and the professional version

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  1. Mbagni

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    Hi all,

    Due to the sudden slowdown of my poor iPad 2 after the upgrade and successive jailbreak to 8.1.2, I have been looking for a memory cleaner (SBsettings still does not work under 8.1.2) and found Cleaner, under BigBoss Cydia repository.
    This tool works fine but there are some advanced features that require an upgrade to the professional version.
    Now come the two questions:
    1) is it normal that the professional version is sold through the official App Store? If it works only with a jailbroken iPad I think that Apple would have refused to host this application in the App Store.
    2) when I click on the upgrade button I am sent to the App Store but a message informs me that the application is available ONLY in the Ukrainian Store and I am offered to switch to this store from my default (U.S.). If I switch to the Ukrainian store how can I go back to my original one?

    Thanks in advance!
     
  2. Mickey330

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    I don't know what version of a cleaner you have, but the "cleaner" I use on my iDevices is called "iCleaner" and it's developed by Exile 90. The version currently on the Big Boss repository is v7.3.2 and it works great on iOS 8.1.2.

    You can also get iCleaner Pro (made by the same person) - it is a paid version. This version is also available through the Big Boss repo on Cydia; you don't have to put in another repo. I don't use it because the "regular" tweak does fine for what I want (clears caches, iFile trash, etc.)....

    In other words, I don't know what tweak you have but NO jailbreak tweak will be directing you to the AppStore to get it. I'm thinking you have been influenced by a commercial, cause there is no other explanation I can think of. Apple won't even let jailbreak tweaks on the store.

    My recommendation is to remove the cleaning tweak you have and install, as a minimum, the free tweak by Exile 90. I've been using it for years (well, ever since SBSettings "disappeared") and I've not had an issue with it.

    Marilyn
     
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    Dear Marilyn,

    I agree with you that the whole thing "stinks" and this is the reason why I submitted my thread.

    The BigBoss repository I have configured is

    http://apt.thebigboss.org/repofiles/cydia

    Taken directly from the list of "More Package Sources" in the first page of Cydia.

    The application is named "Cleaner" (without the prefix i) and declares to have been developed by Feather.

    I have to mention that the weekend before the last one there were big problems connecting to BigBoss since it seamed that some important routers in Europe were not routing correctly the traffic to that repository. In fact, in order to install that Utility I had to setup a free VPN with the U.S.A. And go through that routing path in order to reach that site.

    In your list of the available packages of BigBoss, under the Utilities, have you got too the Cleaner package version 3.2?

    If not, then I, like thousands of other European users, could have been mislead by a "ARP poisoning" attack and have loaded the package list of BigBoss from a shadow site!

    Looking forward to hear your check.

    As usual thanks for your support!

    Marco
     
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    A last comment: Cleaner cleans only the RAM shutting down also those processes that are not fundamental, like the Free Memory feature that run under SBTools.
     
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    That version number for Cleaner (by Feather) is the same as what shows in my Cydia. In addition, the Big Boss repo you listed is the same address I have. So, I don't think you have anything to worry about there.

    My comments were to suggest another cleaning tweak, mainly because I would worry about a tweak that sends you to the AppStore for an upgrade. To me, that's a coding issue and I wonder what that tweak is actually doing. Thus, my recommendation.

    Marilyn
     
  6. Mbagni

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    Marilyn your words are reassuring from one point of view and also scaring from another.

    Reassuring since you confirm that, at least formally, my Cydia repo is aligned with yours.

    Scaring since now I am wondering what kind of "assurance" have we got that the whole Cydia "band" is not a cove of malicious code?

    The only concern that I have seen strongly enforced in this forum fights against the piracy and the repositories that contain stolen programs but who, in the community, is taking care of the content of the hundreds of applications that are available through the "politically correct" Cydia repositories?

    BigBoss (whoever he/she is) or Saurik (Jay Freeman) or the other Cydia alternative repositories are checking that the SW distributed through their sites is not a bunch of Troians masked as tools?

    Have you ever faced (and answered) this question?

    If I am not wrong neither the Cydia packages are "open source", don't they?

    I left to your wisdom the decision if opening a brand new thread on this theme.

    Cheers

    Marco
     
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    To be honest, we have ZERO assurances that what we get from Cydia is not a "cove of malicious" code. That is why Apple locks down the device and why we jailbreak - they want to keep potentially bad stuff away from our devices while we want to open them up and take risks on our own with OUR property. Thus, the neverending battle...

    I do know that saurik, Optimo (manager of the Big Boss repo) and the other "default" Cydia repositories check the tweaks to ensure they aren't malicious. I don't know enough about coding to know whether they catch everything (or are looking for everything). I do know that they are well-respected in the jailbreak "community" and are people I've relied upon for true information since I've been jailbreaking (since around 2011). So, I trust they know what they are doing and if a tweak is on the default repositories, I will trust it as being a safe tweak. Not necessarily safe in that it will run well on my device or that it will work as promised - but safe in that I believe it will not deliberately and maliciously, by design, cause harm to any of my devices.

    Caveat: I have never read anywhere that the tweak you have (Cleaner) causes any harm to anyone. I have never read anything bad about it. I did read a thread from about a year ago where a commenter said the upgrade re-directed them to the AppStore. I am not saying I feel the tweak you have is malicious or bad. Nor am I saying I do not trust the developer of the tweak. I do not think the developer means harm - I just think he has a coding problem (because of the AppStore redirect).

    Since we can never know what is in the code, what I do is rely on the community to aid in policing. If ever someone released a tweak that was harmful or did harmful things, the community of jailbreakers would catch it. They're just suspicious that way in that people always check these things out. And, history has shown the community WILL catch people if they try something. There was a tweak that attempted to redirect ad revenue. The community caught the developer out, notifed the repo (in this case, it was Big Boss) and the tweak was pulled from the repo. Oh, and that developer's name is mud in the jailbreak community. So, yes, the jailbreakers look out for each other.

    As an aside, please keep in mind that what we install on our devices is no different than programs you choose to decide to put on your computer, be it a Mac or a Windows PC. There are no guarantees that what you download is "safe" to use and won't mess up your system.

    Which brings me to my main point - education and research. I never put a tweak onto any of my devices until I have researched the heck out of it. If it's a longstanding tweak such as Activator (by petrich), I don't have to research as much since that tweak has been around forever and the "community" has had plenty of opportunity to observe it "in action" on iDevices. So, I'll usually get the more well-known tweaks right away. Note that this will include new tweaks by developers of such well-known tweaks. They are "trusted," so I don't feel as uncomfortable.

    If it's a brand new tweak, I still do the research, part of which is waiting to see how the tweak works on other's devices. I keep up with a bunch of jail break sites (and some sub-reddits) for news and releases, so I get an idea of how the tweak works and what it does. After observing (and lots of Googling), I make the decision.

    Oh, and all of this ONLY applies to non-piracy repositories. I have never loaded a piracy repo - mainly because I don't trust them to not have bad and malicious code in the tweaks they offer. Well, and the obvious reason that I believe piracy is bad (cause it's stealing). I do have other, non-default repos loaded, but only because (1) the tweak is not on the default Cydia repos (for whatever reason) and (2) I have done my due diligence to ensure the repo (and the repo developer) are "safe."

    So, yes, as you can see, I have thought about it. But, my decision is to trust in the community. When I chose to jailbreak, I know I accepted more "risk' to my device. Again, for me, it's all about research and due diligence.

    I hope this answered some of your questions.

    Marilyn
     
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  8. Mbagni

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    Thank you Marilyn,

    I will not further monopolize your attention.

    I am a Linux-Debian guy and I have been spoiled by the Debian Community to trust the packages downloaded from the official repositories and frankly I have never faced a package with that strange behavior that I described at the beginning of this thread.

    I do not have an anti virus SW running on my PCs and in more than 25 years of cautious habits I have never caught a Virus (the only one was a Microsoft server running Norton Antivirus that was cracked and exploited to abusively store pirated movies, nothing of porno, luckily, only normal movies!).

    Suddenly the fear to have put my trust in the wrong hands has surfaced but your words are, as usual, wise and reasonable. I think that I will contact Feather and BigBoss reporting the strange behavior. The app seems to work nice and that was the reason that made me push the upgrade button.

    Thank you for all.

    Marco
    P.S. I have noticed that the iPad 2 is no longer sold at the Apple Store, so, I think that the iOS 8.1.x will be my last upgrade on my old faithful.
     

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