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    I have seen the ms surface presentation on youtube and am surprised that from a hardware point of view ms did make a sleek device on their own, looks like they have learned thier lessons from the windows phone where they relied on nokia/samsung and others for hardware. But as seadog mentioned, no 3g, that will not be good in the market place from a mobility point of view, this shows the flaw MS have that apple dont have. Apple started thier ipad project first and steve jobs shelved it and started the iphone project and then back to ipad that became the ipad 1. I have to say as far as key boards go, it was the best design, lot of effort and engineering went into it, but how will it compete with siri as it gets better in ios6. Then the issue of apps for the windows tablet, apple have the most vibrant eco system, how can ms compete with that? Then there is the store issue, apple stores are great places, and i know this when i see apple products in other retailers like, currys, dixons, pc world, best buy, the feeling and the staff competence is not the same. And microsoft have to use these mundane places to sell their hardware to compete with apple. Also lets not forget, apple have spoiled us with their smooth keynote presentations, when i saw the microsoft presentation, it looked and felt nervous.

    I will check out the ms surface when it comes out, but as good as it is for a ms product, it is no ipad killer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Good karma View Post
    I have seen the ms surface presentation on youtube and am surprised that from a hardware point of view ms did make a sleek device on their own, looks like they have learned thier lessons from the windows phone where they relied on nokia/samsung and others for hardware. But as seadog mentioned, no 3g, that will not be good in the market place from a mobility point of view, this shows the flaw MS have that apple dont have. Apple started thier ipad project first and steve jobs shelved it and started the iphone project and then back to ipad that became the ipad 1. I have to say as far as key boards go, it was the best design, lot of effort and engineering went into it, but how will it compete with siri as it gets better in ios6. Then the issue of apps for the windows tablet, apple have the most vibrant eco system, how can ms compete with that? Then there is the store issue, apple stores are great places, and i know this when i see apple products in other retailers like, currys, dixons, pc world, best buy, the feeling and the staff competence is not the same. And microsoft have to use these mundane places to sell their hardware to compete with apple. Also lets not forget, apple have spoiled us with their smooth keynote presentations, when i saw the microsoft presentation, it looked and felt nervous.

    I will check out the ms surface when it comes out, but as good as it is for a ms product, it is no ipad killer

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    Have you seen the Microsoft stores? They took Apple's tack and are glossy and open. The mall near one of my houses has both an Apple store and a Microsoft store.

    I avoid the mall, unless forced to go, though. I buy my computers online.

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    We dont have a microsoft store in UK, definately not in london. No i havent seen any microsoft store anywhere, but i will google for pictures now lol. What would they sell anyways, they havent got much hardware to warrant a store, and i bet its more a knee jerk reaction to apple stores which has soul and has purpose.

    Few weeks ago i was at an auction that sold apple products, the man said app,e stores takes in 35,000 an hour. I dont know if its true or not but i do know it is possible. I took the video and here is the link


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    Quote Originally Posted by Good karma View Post
    We dont have a microsoft store in UK, definately not in london. No i havent seen any microsoft store anywhere, but i will google for pictures now lol. What would they sell anyways, they havent got much hardware to warrant a store, and i bet its more a knee jerk reaction to apple stores which has soul and has purpose.

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    Microsoft Store - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    I don't generally find soul at malls, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaykaykay

    Microsoft Store - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    I don't generally find soul at malls, lol.
    Oops, i just edited the post you quoted, sorry, and thanks for the ms store link

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    Apple stores are amazingly profitable. This story is from today and isn't focused on that, but includes references to profitability:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/24/bu...y.html?_r=1&hp

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    I wonder how profitable the microsoft stores are, and from the wiki leak link it seems there is none outside the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Good karma View Post
    I wonder how profitable the microsoft stores are, and from the wiki leak link it seems there is none outside the US.

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    I doubt the profits are significant. Apple is much better at leveraging profits from stores.

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    Just finished reading the new your article on apple stores, amazing reporting

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