You can buy brand new iPads with these same issues. And if someone returns those, then they show up as refurbs. But people return iPad for more reasons than small issues. I think your conclusions are simply wrong. The idea of buying a refurb to save money is a good one. I recently got a Kindle Fire refurb, and it is perfect. I would except even better for Apple. Even though I dont' think you meant harm, I think this post will turn some off on refurbs and this is a bad thing, especially since you mentioned in the BT issue. Just accept that you got two refurbs you didn't like. There are people posting they they returned several brand new iPad for picky little issues. Some people just can't be happy.