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    @szepi: here is some more if you would try from my exp.
    -Like yof said: you have to mount and unmount properly: that mean everytime I have to go to ifile -mnt- tap arrow to see new window and roll down and tap unmount it. If I just unplug the HDD without doing those unmount steps above, then next time when I plug in the HDD, the CCK not see the HDD, then I have to reboot ipad in order CCK see HDD.
    -My ipad is ipad 1 with OS 4.3 after I installed USBtoggle and SSH, my ipad works very slow and some time CCK see HDD but some time it doesn't see, so I decide uninstall SSH and usbtoogle, and now every time I put HDD in it recognized about 5 seconds later.
    -For the Y cable: the best way the plug in CCK: the V part with double cable should go to CCK port, and the single cable of V part should go to power port, and the I part of Y cable go to HDD port (not sure you understand what I mean?) I have tried many times to switch around and only the above connection is work.
    Sorry I am not computer guy, so sometime I tell something that you guy thing that was stupid stuff, but this is the way I did and now work well with my ipad 1.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thraex View Post
    I've worked a lot lately to find out how to stream 24 bit perfect audio to iPad/CCK/external USB DAC for portability everywhere and I'm near to find a good and easy solution.
    Any piece of the chain do matter and can downsample data to 16/44.
    Server software and iPad app player used are the first two bottlenecks even at home.

    Patriot Gauntlet Note is rouled out for me, since SMB streaming or similar generally are too slow to operate, load, organize, no cover arts, auto play next, ... difficult to use always without a router.

    From now on I want to find a solution to stream to any renderer in my home too, so I'm targeting only UPnP/DLAN server and iPad UPnP/DLNA players.
    I've already purchased most UPnP/DLNA iPad apps using a few UPnP/DLNA servers (JRiver, Asset, Foobar) to test their funcionality.
    Most are not working 24 bit-perfect and some that works don't supports FLACs.Best interfaces and features (like playng in the background or auto play next) are from apps that downsamples any file to 16/44.
    None are without bugs, but best 24 bit-perfect all formats apps are free, it's a shame to have paid so many apps that don't work, they're generally crap.
    I'm writing to all these stupids programmers to report tons of bugs, basic functions not working and such, I can't understand why Apple approved some apps like these.
    Add that some servers sends metadata info in a different way to the each app and you'll understand how hard is to find a good solution.

    BTW DLNA basic functions are already officially implemented in GoFlex Satellite which I'll test in a few days (latest FW allow internet while streaming and you can hack it if you're not satisfied).
    I totally forgot about foobar. That's not good as we are all headed to iOS 6. Hopefully they will push out those bugs in the next major update as all developers are still working on the bugs. Yes DLNA functions are in the GoFlex S. But as I said they have this forum thing where you sign up and buy their firmware download that the GoFlex developer hack team has done. They have more support and implementations and does not lack as bad as the original Seagate OS for it. Are they ipad compatible or is it both iphone and ipad btw? Yeah sometimes developers use reviews to fix their apps rather than having the sources to fix it themselves before release. Could be worse, could be on android. haha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yof View Post
    The way to get the iPad recognize the drive sooner is using the steps by step and using Mobile Terminal. Launch it every so often you want to connect and disconnect by shortcut commands. When you said it takes 10-15 minutes of trying. What did you do to make it connect when it did connect? Did what you do is reliable enough that you can keep on using that method? Maybe the long mounting times might be because of your HDD does not have enough power to run fully. It could be the case because of the y usb cable. You should also try to hook it up to the outlet with it being straight to the iPad to see if that is the cause. If it isn't or is, let us know. Do you have a lot of things on the hard drive btw?\

    Thx yof and uyenho for your comments. Of course i will try different cable to power up the hdd and let you know the result. Unfortunately i cannot exactly tell what was the reason, when the hdd get mounted. Here are my findings:
    This hdd never produced basic ipad error message: device is not supported.
    As power source i tried ipad power supply and usb port : no difference
    Tried to connect cables in different order to cck and hdd :no result
    Installed usb toggle: as i tapped on the button two messages appeared alternately 1. Device not configured 2. No attached device (cannot remeber the exact text sorry) and hdd wasnt mounted
    After this i installed issh. As some blog said, tried to kill mobilestoragemounter and waited for the hdd to be mounted . Negative.
    Tried mount from command line : got the device configured message again
    Several times i respringed the ipad, moreover the ipad restarted itself.
    Amongst these tries, after a restart, and usb toggle, somehow the drive was mounted and worked worked well (i played some movies from it) When i dismounted i wasn't able to mount again.
    So it's the actual state, will try different cable

    Thx szepi
    Have you tried a fresh restart before starting over with the mounting and several tries of mounting? That usualy does the trick.

    What was the message for the mobile terminal after you tried to mount it?

    Have you tried the steps from command line to set it up mannually?

    Hmm. Okay there you go so a restart was a key somewhat. You know what you can do though? Buy a cloudftp and save yourself some trouble by hooking your hard drive into the usb slot of cloudftp and create you own network that streams fast as a wifi connection depending on your rpm of harddrive and the information sent to from usb to the usb slot. So you wouldn't have to go through all those problems. Hope that helps!

    Quote Originally Posted by uyenho View Post
    @szepi: here is some more if you would try from my exp.
    -Like yof said: you have to mount and unmount properly: that mean everytime I have to go to ifile -mnt- tap arrow to see new window and roll down and tap unmount it. If I just unplug the HDD without doing those unmount steps above, then next time when I plug in the HDD, the CCK not see the HDD, then I have to reboot ipad in order CCK see HDD.
    -My ipad is ipad 1 with OS 4.3 after I installed USBtoggle and SSH, my ipad works very slow and some time CCK see HDD but some time it doesn't see, so I decide uninstall SSH and usbtoogle, and now every time I put HDD in it recognized about 5 seconds later.
    -For the Y cable: the best way the plug in CCK: the V part with double cable should go to CCK port, and the single cable of V part should go to power port, and the I part of Y cable go to HDD port (not sure you understand what I mean?) I have tried many times to switch around and only the above connection is work.
    Sorry I am not computer guy, so sometime I tell something that you guy thing that was stupid stuff, but this is the way I did and now work well with my ipad 1.
    Also there might be a problem with the Y cord, I know you might of tried to switch the cords around on the y ends. Some company doesn't change the color for the power output side so it's all black and you won't know which one charges and which ones send info, but not sure if the cords are all the same though.
    & yes proper mount and unmount
    Last edited by yof; 09-11-2012 at 03:27 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yof View Post
    I totally forgot about foobar.
    ...Are they ipad compatible or is it both iphone and ipad btw?
    Foobar with "foo_upnp" plugin is a UPnP server, check streaming settings to have 24 bit-perfect streaming.
    If you want the best 24 bit-perfect iPad player app, without purchasing any of them just to test and won't work, go with "8player" (ALAC/AIFF/WAV totally bit-perfect, FLAC files are played but bit/freq info not sended to my external DAC, developer informed me he'll fix it in the future).
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    Hmm, it looks like I have the same USB hub as yours but I am not able to make ifile to detect my external portable HDD. I can see my HDD lighted up and hear the disc spinning, but iFile just won't recognize the drive.

    Help pls

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    Quote Originally Posted by TylerThomas View Post
    Attachment 21129

    This is the USB hub I have.



    Attachment 21130

    This is the CCK I have. (which cost $10.00)



    Attachment 21131

    This is the iHustler.



    Attachment 21133

    Attachment 21134

    This is two USB flash drives connected and mounted to my iPad as shown in iFile and a picture of what the set up looks like.
    Hmm, it looks like I have the same USB hub as yours but I am not able to make ifile to detect my external portable HDD. I can see my HDD lighted up and hear the disc spinning, but iFile just won't recognize the drive.

    Help pls

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    Quote Originally Posted by wheelhot

    Hmm, it looks like I have the same USB hub as yours but I am not able to make ifile to detect my external portable HDD. I can see my HDD lighted up and hear the disc spinning, but iFile just won't recognize the drive.

    Help pls
    Did you do USB toggle method or the Mobile terminal way? Also check in /mnt in ifile or /var/Volumes or whereever you see volumes. That's where it should be located. Not sure if you mounted properly but take a look at that and let us know.

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    USB toggle as in the donate one? Yeah I did that, didn't try the mobile terminal way

    The weird part about the USB hub is that when I connect the iPad to a computer USB, the drive will appear (in computer) and the iPad will start charging. Whereas if I were to use the iPad direct charger, it will not charge the iPad. Does yours work the same way too?

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    I've the Seagate GoFlex Satellite (500GB DLNA capable, latest FW just released) in my hand and it works for 24 bit-perfect audio even with Seagate app, but it sorts album songs only alphabetically not by track number, to use it with tack number and unsopported formats too just install 8player app and all audio/video formats are streamed, however for video .avi I've found that AirPlayer was more smoother/faster than 8player, but doesn't do 24 bit-perfect for audio files. At the end using a specific app for each format is better, but what's most important SGGFS works with any third-party UPnP/DLNA apps (however most apps are not good).
    Last edited by Thraex; 09-24-2012 at 06:26 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wheelhot
    USB toggle as in the donate one? Yeah I did that, didn't try the mobile terminal way

    The weird part about the USB hub is that when I connect the iPad to a computer USB, the drive will appear (in computer) and the iPad will start charging. Whereas if I were to use the iPad direct charger, it will not charge the iPad. Does yours work the same way too?
    Give the mobile terminal way a try. No it does not do that to my iPad. Although I don't have USB hub to try. Maybe one of our posters will give you feedback once he's back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thraex
    I've the Seagate GoFlex Satellite (500GB DLNA capable, latest FW just released) in my hand and it works for 24 bit-perfect audio even with Seagate app, but it sorts album songs only alphabetically not by track number, to use it with tack number and unsopported formats too just install 8player app and all audio/video formats are streamed, however for video .avi I've found that AirPlayer was more smoother/faster than 8player, but doesn't do 24 bit-perfect for audio files. At the end using a specific app for each format is better, but what's most important SGGFS works with any third-party UPnP/DLNA apps (however most apps are not good).
    Dang. Well have you experienced crashing while leaving the music played? Are you going to get a similar system set up for your car too?


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