Originally Posted by stayin100

I just got the iPhone last week, it's a white 16gb CDMA on 4.2.10. Null means that I can't jailbreak it as there is no 100% working jailbreaks for it. I have started saving blobs though. Im just not known for my ability to wait lol.

ok i get it now, forgot about verizon and its lower strange firmwares(I'm in Canada), and it is a iphone 4....

Seeing as I am on 4.3.5 on the pad and 4.2.10 on the phone my jailbreaks are limited to tethered on the pad, and null on the phone.

because you said "jailbreaks", it made me think both are..

and i do see, 4.2.8 is supported, untethered too and jailbreakme.com compatible, but you're stuck on 4.2.10. You will get a jailbreak soon.

Originally Posted by stayin100

So I've just stumbled on the iPad and iPhone and do like them, coming from the world of android I am used to being able to root any phone and do what ever I want with it. Seeing as I am on 4.3.5 on the pad and 4.2.10 on the phone my jailbreaks are limited to tethered on the pad, and null on the phone. Asking for an answer from someone thats been in the iOS works for a while, do you think the current and upcoming versions will be jailbreakable? I realize why the 4.3.5 jb wouldn't be released until apple releases ios5, but in apple possibly closing the doors on us?

If Apple hates J-Breakers as much as something I once read on some webby web site on the Interweb, a long time ago and I forgot where, well, your answer is no. The future looks bleak and we will not have the ability to JB.

That said, there are oodles of clever folks that are working hard to circumvent Apple and I can or must believe it will forever be possible to JB our devices.

Or I am wrong and Apple will be all too clever and find a way that no matter how clever you are you can’t get around this one. Perhaps something evil and clever and so complex, Apple can’t plug all the holes and a JB is but a click away.

I am hoping some coder(s) will come up with a replacement OS that lets us bid a fond farewell to Apple. Something with unfettered file system access, themes, widgets, and the other things we love.

Like android? Lol, not trying to start anything, just what you described was pretty much the Droid experience. I do love the iOS world more and more as I play with these few new toys I have acquired, but I'm now experiencing the things I argued to iOS users for years as to why I chose google over apple.. Jailbreaking makes things that are essential to me in a mobile device possible, not all of then but the important ones, And I get to benefit from the over all fluidity of this os over Droid, and the highly polished look of them. I do stil own many Droid phones and a galaxy 10.1 tab, but I do wish to keep the iOS stuff, and jail breaking allows me to fill in the holes just don't want to get to attached to this whole world if it's coming to an end.

Originally Posted by chungpe84s

apple possibly closing the doors on us

There will always be someone who has a key.

I would not count on being able to jailbreak in the future. The new update system will NOT require your permission to download and install iOS patches if you connect your device to the Internet in any way...

Today's system asks because updates are 600M. When they are 1M or less they will simply install themselves... Read your TOS. If you connect to the App Store or iCloud in any way Apple can update your system without asking your permission

I suspect Apple will close the door and nail it shut this time.

-t

Originally Posted by thewitt

I would not count on being able to jailbreak in the future. The new update system will NOT require your permission to download and install iOS patches if you connect your device to the Internet in any way...

Today's system asks because updates are 600M. When they are 1M or less they will simply install themselves... Read your TOS. If you connect to the App Store or iCloud in any way Apple can update your system without asking your permission

I suspect Apple will close the door and nail it shut this time.

-t

Are you sure......just because they can doesn't automatically mean that they will?

The Archangel

Originally Posted by thewitt

I suspect Apple will close the door and nail it shut this time.

-t

Perhaps for a while. But sooner or later....

Originally Posted by Gabriel1

Are you sure......just because they can doesn't automatically mean that they will?

The Archangel

The only reason I believe this will happen is word that Jobs does not like the fact that there are security holes in iOS that allow jail breaking. Rumor is he has become somewhat obsessed with the subject - and he always gets his way at Apple...

It will be so easy for a device to patch itself now even a few bytes at a time, I cannot imagine they would not take advantage of this mechanism in the future.

There is API support for Apps to offer incremental updates as well, which could be very interesting too.

-t

Originally Posted by thewitt

The only reason I believe this will happen is word that Jobs does not like the fact that there are security holes in iOS that allow jail breaking. Rumor is he has become somewhat obsessed with the subject - and he always gets his way at Apple...

It will be so easy for a device to patch itself now even a few bytes at a time, I cannot imagine they would not take advantage of this mechanism in the future.

There is API support for Apps to offer incremental updates as well, which could be very interesting too.

-t

You can't beat rumours, eh?

The Archangel

I worked at Apple in the early 80s when it was very frightening to get into an elevator with Jobs. You might be fired by the time you reached your floor - if he asked you questions about your project you could not answer. He was really adamant that everyone on a project team understood the entire project.

When he gets a bee in his bonnet he is really driven...

-t