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The Palm Pre was to be a "iPhone killer", but like all the others Web OS failed. My wife has a Pre, so I am very familiar with the OS. If Web OS was successful, Palm would have never sold out. fact is like all the other iPhone and iPod killers it failed.
So now they bring it to a copy cat iPad (ie iPad killer) and you honestly think it will succeed? I do welcome competition, but in the real world Web OS and HP/old school Palm is a loser.....
@cherhall. Count me in as a Windows 7 fan. Macs, for me, are lame compared to the power and options of the Windows environment. I tried Macs, and they are not for me. It's as simple as different strokes, for different folks. There is no "best" or "right" one, there is only what works for you!
But, for me, in the Moble/portable computing world..... At this point in time, and for the at least near future.... Apple rules!
As far as the smartphone market goes the devices typically get turned around every 2 years if they last that long so the number currently in use is not an issue for HP.Quote:
Originally Posted by lifevicarious
The iPad just got released and will have a 5 to 7 million unit leap over the HP tablet. Not insurmountable by any means and since the longest warranty that you can get from Apple on an iPad is 2 years from the date of purchase, I would look for those to be replace possibly in a 3 year cycle.
It is a new day.
Sure, if you assume that no one buys the same phone again. But given the investment in apps and the typical apple customer, if you think the current installed base is not an issue, you couldn't be more wrong. And don't worry about hte 7 million and growing they sell per quarter either (excluding iPads).Quote:
Originally Posted by Sonny Burnett
Oh, and my earlier number was way off, there are actually ~90 million iPhone OS devices sold. Good luck HP.
http://www.tipb.com/2010/04/08/50-mi...ne-os-devices/
Again, the exact same thing. How many Apple customers switch? I'm not saying none do, but the vast majority of apple customers are extremely loyal. They don't pay a premium just because they can, they pay a premium because they believe theQuote:
Originally Posted by Sonny Burnett
You're calling it a "new day" based on vaporware?! Wow, quite an optimist. It's not like any competitors came out with an MP3 player or a smart phone in the past that beat out Apple's "inferior" product, why do you expect things to change now? There was a reason Palm failed, I'm certainly not expecting a company mostly known for printers and certainly not known for software to turn that around.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sonny Burnett
You need to look at the big picture. HP will not be releasing a Tablet until sometime next year now. The justice department is about to go on a mission to destroy Big Brother Apple in an Anti-Trust witch hunt.Quote:
Originally Posted by lifevicarious
The big one: by this time next year the economic conditions in the U.S. will have deteriorated greatly and the latest electronic gadget will not have anywhere near the importance that it has to the U.S. consumer today. Due to the amount of exposure that both Apple and HP have to the U.S. consumer they will both be hurting.
You know the economy was much better when (for example) the Xbox 360 and PS3 came out, yet the iPad, even in our poor economy now, still trumped the 1st month sales figures of both those devices.
The economy is no longer a excuse when it comes to electronics. They are all up across the board. Need some proof? Looks at this link.Quote:
Originally Posted by Superbike81
Shocker: CEA's spending report finds Americans buying more technology -- Engadget
Right, economy doesn't matter, people will still buy stuff.
Sonny is just grasping at every straw he can to badmouth the iPad.
For someone who apparently doesn't like Apple, you spend a lot of time on a board dedicated to an Apple product.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sonny Burnett
As far as the anti-trust, nothing will come of it. The worst thing that will happen is they will open up the sale of apps to other players which will be bad for the consumer (from a stability perspective). I find it ridiculous that people even question apple from an anti-trust perspective given there are tons of options and they don't have a majority market share in any of their products.
Interesting, just a couple of posts back you were saying how the lead was not insurmountable. Now you are stating the economic conditions will be so bad in the U.S. that gadgets won't be important. So which one is it? Is HP going to overcome a lead or is no one going to care about gadgets? What is your next argument going to be? Aliens are going to come down and require everyone to buy a Slate?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sonny Burnett
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Originally Posted by Sonny BurnettYou need to look at the big picture. HP will not be releasing a Tablet until sometime next year now. The justice department is about to go on a mission to destroy Big Brother Apple in an Anti-Trust witch hunt.Quote:
Originally Posted by lifevicarious
The big one: by this time next year the economic conditions in the U.S. will have deteriorated greatly and the latest electronic gadget will not have anywhere near the importance that it has to the U.S. consumer today. Due to the amount of exposure that both Apple and HP have to the U.S. consumer they will both be hurting.
The Obama administration isn't that stupid that they would go after Apple because of Adobe.
Adobe is the one you could prove a claim of noncompetitive behavior as Adobe dominates the web with their proprietary Flash by their own admission.
Developers are not forced to develop for Apple, they can starve with the rest of the Android world if they want to. No one at Apple will miss them.