This is a discussion on Piper Jaffray says Android beats iOS in five years within the iPad General Discussions forums, part of the Apple iPad Discussions category; Originally Posted by wrecklass Piper Jaffray: Android Army’s Victory Over iPhone Inevitable | John Paczkowski | Digital Daily | AllThingsD Piper Jaffray analysts say while ...
The reason Mac didn't become a household name right away was because of price!! Apple didn't want to cheap out on experience so they used only high end components that came at a steeper price. At a time that you could get a window POC for $500 the Mac was about $1500 - $2500. Is it because the PC was better? Not by a longshot!! It was cheaper..and that is the consumer mantra...I'll be a broken PC for 1/3 the price, I'll have to replace it 3 times in the time I'll have a Mac....but I don't think about these trivialities...I only think about now! You do realize with the Mac Mini they have become a bit more popular...and now the iMac is down considerably in price (but still considered a luxury item) it has started becoming more and more popular.
While you may want to judge success by # of sales and that may be accurate to a degree....go ask a Mac user about their experience then go ask a Gateway user.
9/10 Mac users will say they're mac is awesome....while most gateway users (the ones that spent less than a mac) will say its a piece of crap, but they can check their email and web pages so it does what it needs to do. I'm not including people that put $2000 into their PC because they have quality components...the only weak link in that chain is the OS....which they don't know is the weak link because they haven't used a Mac.
My mom HATED computers because all she ever used was a PC (the cheapest money can buy too). I kept telling her...get a Mac.....she and my stepdad were not willing to take the plunge into unknown waters.
I bought her one for xmas last year.....she LOVES it. She is always talking about how great and easy it is to use and how it made her hate using a PC even more.
Try a Mac before you pass judgement.
Oh and yes....what I described is EXACTLY why Mac IS such a huge success!
Oh yeah and BTW...you still haven't mentioned which android apps are ROCK SOLID and you couldn't live without...I would love to try them.
Last edited by gentlefury; 09-08-2010 at 03:24 PM.
I went for the iPad because it can do what I needed and expected it to do. I'm a win7 user and never considered a mac before and I probably wouldn't have considered an iPad if there had been more/better alternatives.
Once other platforms get better, my iPad will be about 2-5 years old and I will consider buying a new device anyway.
If apple again provides a device that fits my needs, I'll go for it. If it's another company, I'll go for that. I'll make up my mind once it gets time to do so
Well I am an iPad noobie and I must confess loving it. I have always steered well clear of Apple because of the closed ecosystem. Have 21 PC/Server machines in my office and 1 mac for iPhone app dev. Never really took to the Mac, but I think that is a question of familararity with the OS......
I am also an Android tablet user (Archos 5 internet tablet) so if anything I am a bit in the anti Apple camp.
That said I do love my iPad. The Archos is a better media tablet - their codec support, 720p output to a tv etc is just above the iPad at present, however I am finding the iPad a far better tablet experience. The apps are well rounded and polished and I definately have less issues with app crashes on the iPad. I do get a few but not many.
Will I become a Mac user? Probably not as I develop in C# and .net, my customers are Wintel houses and I have a large investment in Wintel technology.
Will I stop using my Archos with Android on it? No it is still a great media player and I have hundreds of films encoded to play on it.
I have, however, been taking my iPad with me everyday, using it both at work and home, and really enjoying the experience. The large screen (in comparison to the Archos), stable, polished apps and user experience has made it work for me. I do wonder if in a year Android will be able to match it.......
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Try it first huh? Nice argument. So let me lay em out for ya kid:Try a Mac before you pass judgement.
March 1984, I bought my first Macintosh in what was called the first 100 days. I wrote programming articles for MacUser magazine. I wrote articles on using Macs in numerous other magazines. I developed software for the Mac for years. I interviewed Andy Herzfield and Guy Kawasaki. Look em up if you are too young.
By 1995 I had a MacPlus, Mac IIc, Mac Duo, and even lugged around an original Mac Portable for months. I oversaw the development of Macintosh software at a fortune 100 company. Until 1995 when I realized the Mac had lost the market and the tools were all on Windows. I reluctantly told my team to go to Windows 95 for our big project that year.
I've used OS X which is a nice version of Unix, but not what I choose to spend my time developing on these days. Market share does matter.
So have I passed your excellent test of trying a Macintosh, son?
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Getting back to the issue the long and short of it is 5 years is a long time in IT frankly no one can predict what will come along and whom will do what. Does it really matter I too started in 1978 with my first Apple 11 at that time no one could even imagine a product like a Macplus. 5 years ago it was blackberry, nokia sony in mobile phones. Now it Is a different line up. Who knows what is coming and yes android is growing as it will be on multiple devices and so is Apple although locked to Apple devices is also growing. The point is its competition and thats healthy. Who is to say Sony or some one else will come out with something totally different to the above.within 5 years that will blow all away so in summary. Smile enjoy what you have it is only the beginning.
Before some one calls me son I am 66 lol
That five year extrapolation is clear misjudgment. Do you really expect Apple to just sit there and do nothing? Apple evolves as every other and they often take the first steps or are the first out of the gate with near perfect products. When they smell competition they just up the tempo.
Does anyone have an idea of what they're up to in the back shops? I expect to see huge jumps in cloud usage, the iPad being a first step. What next?
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Do I think Apple will stand still for five years? No.
Do I think Piper Jaffray took that into account? Absolutely.
They are an investment bank, they make a living telling people what they expect to see happen in the next few years. They help investors figure out where to put their money. No doubt they are occasionally wrong, but I seriously doubt they make predictions like this without giving it a lot of thought. And I am sure they don't make these kinds of predictions without looking at business plans and strategies.
Given that I was surprised they made such a bold prediction given Apple's meteoric rise in the smartphone market over the last few years. They don't make these kinds of statements for headlines. Headlines don't make money for Investment Banks.
They give advice to investors.
Given this analysis, I just found it very interesting and a bit alarming for Apple.
Bear in mind that in little over a year Google has essentially caught up with Apple on smart phone market share.
Do you think they took that into account?
Don't you think that is alarming to Apple?
Last edited by wrecklass; 09-09-2010 at 03:34 PM.
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