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Most commercial usage is still under Visual Basic. Visual Studio is a hog and gets very expensive fast. It is true that VS Express is cheap, but it is just a lure to get people started. The fact remains that these are programming applications and have no real point in a discussion of a device for consumers. The only connection to the iPad is in an app, and that is created on a full computer system. And it is not anything that will be applicable to a Windows based tablet either. Xcode is considered a rebust program and is usable cross platform. While it no longer supports PowerPC applications, it can debug iOS programs running on ARM processors using iOS SDK. IMHO, it is a lot less complex than the developer guide for Windows 8. Of course, I am not a deveoper or programmer, but I do recognize that programming is getting way too complex for there not to be limitations on who can work on what. That is why more people prefer to write apps for iOS. They know that there is less complexity and if they follow the rules, it will continue being effective with minor tweaks for years.
I know there is the eee hybrids but i'm not really a fan I want to see what a heavy hitter like Microsoft or Apple can do with a concept like that
To each their own, but thanks to onthehub.com I get the vs ultimate version for free and I do software development not app development. Given that there are more available features with VS than xcode. Like the microsoft sql server, microsoft sync framework, ajax framework, and the debugger is much better (atleast for the professional). Plus, stretching the IDE across 2 different monitors is nice not that it can be done with a tablet. Sure it typically costs a lot of money but it is a far superior tool in comparison to xcode. Last, not to get to far off the point of the thread but visual basic is JUNK I would rather use netbeans than VB.
You are looking at this from a programmers perspective, so I have to say you have no idea what makes a good tablet. Any extra capability comes at the cost of increased complexity. While you and I may be able to deal with that (I used to be a programmer) it's simply not something the general public wants in a tablet appliance.Originally Posted by wbeasleyatsmu
I also have an android tablet that with all it's additional capability for the OS over IOS is pretty much meaningless to me as a user. Though I most certainly recognize there is a market for such control, and I jailbreak when I can just not available for ipad3 yet :-(
??? Lol.Originally Posted by blckz28
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It's really a matter of personal preference. I would like to add that it's extremely refreshing to read a thread like this and for the most part see an actual thought out discussion without name calling and resorting to the apple v android v blackberry war!
I may sound cheesy but this really is a great thread and I've learned a lot!
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I won't go so far as to say Visual Basic is junk, but it is more problematic than it needs to be. However, it is used as a standard graphic interface standard for industrial controls. Like most things in life, companies use the most effective equipment, and hesitate to change the core components until forced to do so. Which is why I am still dealing with XP instead of Win 7. And it is not just the system providers that are that way. Users want commonality and smooth integration with existing systems. They know that the bugs are worked out of the older systems, so most do not want to migrate to newer programs, especially at the cost involved. You have to realize that by the time you upgrade all the hardware, and install all new programs, plus pay for the programming, you can get into six digit prices. Add the fact that working out bugs in programming can take months. When you have an operation that operates 24/7 and cannot be shutdown for any real period of time, it can be very chaotic. Especially if you are the one that gets called out at 3:00 in the morning to troubleshoot. And I am no techician.
That is certainly true but it doesn't change the fact that VB is EXTREMELY dated. You can run most things with Windows 98, but who would want to with reduced speed, capability, and support? It can be difficult for large companies to transition and is why so many government agencies still program in C. Even so, at some point a transition is always needed because they must have been using pascal or something of that nature before C. I'm not saying that there isn't a place for people who know VB, i'm saying there shouldn't be. Visual basic should have been taken out to the farm long ago.
It really depends on what you want to use it for and if you will use it a lot. The iPad is by far the best tablet out there but costs a premium. You might buy a blackberry playbook but end up wanting an iPAD. Hardware isn't everything. It's about the whole experience.
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