It aint paranoia if they really are out to get ya!!!
This is a discussion on think about the personal privacy issuse with a camera on a ipad unit .. within the iPad General Discussions forums, part of the Apple iPad Discussions category; It aint paranoia if they really are out to get ya!!!...
It aint paranoia if they really are out to get ya!!!
step outside the box and take a look at the whole thing from a diff way than your thinking right now and posting the comments about beening a little to tight with the tinfoil on the head post ..
as a parent would you not be mad if you child came home from school and told you the teacher pulled them aside into the teacher office and told your child to not to chew gum or something else in there own bedroom .for i would call the school and ask how my kid is doing somthing that you do not approve off in his bedroom was the teacher problem .
why did the V.P of the school pull the kid into the office to tell him that what he did in his own bedroom was not right ..does that not scare you one bit over how the school backdoor into the child bedroom and was spying on the kids there ....that point iam trying to make about the whole camera thing ..
Sure. But I am not going to blame the device with the camera. YOU, the parents allowed your child to have the device, YOU the parents, signed whatever papers you needed to with whatever stipulations you agreed to if the school assigned them the equipment, you the PARENTS put your kid in that school. There is alot of dots to connect here. Blaming the equipment is not the correct thing to do. Blame the people behind the equipment. Being the parents, IT department, school, etc or whoever... If you sign a paper saying the school is allowed to activate a camera on your child's loaned device, under whatever situation, then you take responsibility for whatever comes of it, right or wrong.
iam not blameing the device and the technologies ..what iam saying how far is to far on this one area in our life here ..how far do we allow the schools to see inside our homes and lifes ..how does it allow them to be looking into the person bedroom ....where does the line start and stop with this issuse here ..
if the laptop was missing i could understand the fact that the school use lo-jack program to trace the where the laptop and find the address that way ,,but why turn on the webcamera on to see into the person bedroom ..why did you need to turn on the webcamera and why did the school vp call the boy into the office to tell him that was wrongfull behavior ..
that my point about it the thing with the cameras on anytype of electronics ..
You said you see no reason for the iPad having a camera, based on privacy concerns. If you treated that same concern with other objects in your life, you would never leave the house, ever.... You would not even be on the internet, because that is a privacy risk. What you type, where you visit, your ip address, etc...You would never drive, as people would see you or a camera might catch a glimpse of you. See the point I am making? Or do I need to take your Car and Computer away, so you can be safe in your cave?
Edit: You clearly do not like camera's on portable devices. You think they do alot of harm, but I can think of many situations where they have done some good. You get your good, along with the bad, with everything in life.
I agree, the camera isn't the problem, its the school stepping over boundaries and the LAW. You can't stop progress, but at least monitor what is being done right or wrong and be sure the procedures like what the school induced via agreements with the school kids and parent's are not stepping over those boundaries laid out by law.
I could sign a contract with you saying you can come shoot me if I disagree with you in a forum, but that doesn't mean if you do it it is right and me signing it does not give the right to forgo the law prohibiting that act. It's also called indemnity and cant be used if it breaks a law.
Either way it's no reason to remove cameras from devices such as the iPad and if the public begins to even follow the media hype, its ridiculous and nothing more than fear mongering. Just watch how the media hypes it all up, then communities get in an uproar and the next thing you know while your paying attention to this, some other ridiculous thing conspired in the meantime which the media does not cover and causes a law or issue to press beyond its considered path and should never reach congress or otherwise and goes un-noticed. Yes sometimes things such as this are even planned to create a need for a new LAW to pass, its problem - reaction - solution and one body controls it all. So just be careful, parenting isn't enough these days, you also have to mind your own statements and create solutions or else "they" will and you wont like either outcome.
Basically, sure stand up to what is right, but arguing down each other as to what is right or wrong without doing anything is worse than pulling the trigger yourself. What needs to be done is to carefully watch what is done about this subject then approach any party that acts outside the law and be sure to make it known to the public. The rest will take care of itself, but when its all behind closed doors and out here we argue without action, nothing will ever stop shenanigans such as this from spreading like wild fires.
I will disagree a little here. If you sign a paper saying the school can monitor a piece of equipment, regardless of location, then they will not be liable if that is all they are doing. Now if they use this document to gain access and then break the law in whatever fashion, that's a different story of-course. But yes, I agree with your "that's ludicrous" statement, lol.
as a parent of three girls i have to say with them beening out of the house in this day and age is more of a mixed blessing along with haveing grandchild in the school now i started to rethink the whole issuse of personal space in this day and age of the digtal media ..my girlfriend thinks of it more now as internet stalking of people with how easly it is to find and post pictures of people now days ..i have become a little more thinking to the right about personal securitys when it comes to my chilldern .
also i would like to thank all the people here for there post here ..
There is a camera in the iPad. They just aren't telling us about it.