Originally Posted by Superbike81

Originally Posted by MarkK

I think 'flawlessly' isn't quite the right term here.
I have friends with Android-tablets who always complain that flash drains their batteries faster than they can recharge, that the tablet gets extremely hot when they use flash and that overall the performance of flash is comparably poor.

So, it might run, but it just wasn't made for tablets.
I'm not Mr. Jobs' best friend, but he really has a point in not permitting flash on the iPad.

He never said anything about the current market Android tablets, he said the new tablets coming in the next couple weeks to couple months. The new ones are considerably more powerful and will handle Flash content very well.

It's not a matter of technology, if they wanted the iPad or iPhone to have flash it would have had it by now. In Steve Job's eyes the problem is security. He has stated repeatedly that he has not intention of adding Flash to the iPhone or iPad. It's not going to happen, he is going to use a different technology.

/target Dead Horse
/kick

It is a good thing that Apple don't have flash. It gives an edge to it's competitors ( Android) that do have flash running without problem.
That way Apple wouldn't dominate the market. Compation is good with lowering prices and bringing advanced technology.

Originally Posted by vishnu

I am a commercial pilot and is the moderator of a website by our airline named magicofflight.com. Now we are always on the fly, I prefer something lighter than a laptop, when i heard about ipad. So my doubt is whether ipad can display flash video embeds on the site because our site will play videos on jw player.
Please explain. This is what is holding me from buying the ipad.
Thanking you in advance,
Vishnu

Hey Vishnu welcome. I'll answer your question out of experience. And just to give you a little advice, when you come into these forums, try not to say the "F" word. No, I don't mean "F*#@". "FLASH". So far you haven't received a straight answer on whether or not Flash videos will work on the iPad. From my experience, most of the sites with Flash videos I go to watch online from my PC (CNN, Globoesporte, YOUPORN, etc LOL) all run on flash-based videos. You can see that by right-clicking on the video and can clearly see that it's a FLASH video. However, I don't know if the site did anything special (and maybe an expert can respond about this) but when I browse to those sites using Safari on my iPad, I get the "play" button on top of the video, and hence it works! In fact, I appreciate the iPad much more now because it does play Flash videos (from what I understand) using its built-in Youtube player without any annoying ads, specially from the CNN site. You'll notice that if you go to CNN and play one of their videos, it's the same interface of the Youtube app. I don't know if that makes any sense to you but if you go to an Apple store and fondle one of these wonderful devices, you will see that you can play some Flash videos.

HOWEVER, there are quite a few sites that Flash videos do not work. Notably any major network's site (FOX, ABC, NBC, CBS) all have episodes of your favorite TV shows that are flash-based but don't work with Safari on the iPad. Though I haven't tried Skyfire and it's claims to play "most" flash videos, it's a bit promising that we can at least see some flash videos, no? I definitely was hesitant to get the iPad when I found out it didn't support flash, but the fact is that flash videos can and do work!

Good Luck!

and here's a site to help you understand what's "compatible" with the iPad:
Apple - iPad-ready websites

Originally Posted by renatog

HOWEVER, there are quite a few sites that Flash videos do not work. Notably any major network's site (FOX, ABC, NBC, CBS) all have episodes of your favorite TV shows that are flash-based but don't work with Safari on the iPad. Though I haven't tried Skyfire and it's claims to play "most" flash videos, it's a bit promising that we can at least see some flash videos, no? I definitely was hesitant to get the iPad when I found out it didn't support flash, but the fact is that flash videos can and do work!

Good Luck!

No, Flash videos do not work. If you are seeing a video on a website when browsing with your iPad it is because the website has correctly determined that you are using a non-Flash compatible device and it is serving the video in another format (like HTML5). So, the more correct response would be that some websites that use Flash content also supply that same media in other formats as well. If you are seeing a video on your iPad, unless you are using a special browser like Skyfire then you are not seeing Flash video.

Originally Posted by DaveSt

Originally Posted by renatog

HOWEVER, there are quite a few sites that Flash videos do not work. Notably any major network's site (FOX, ABC, NBC, CBS) all have episodes of your favorite TV shows that are flash-based but don't work with Safari on the iPad. Though I haven't tried Skyfire and it's claims to play "most" flash videos, it's a bit promising that we can at least see some flash videos, no? I definitely was hesitant to get the iPad when I found out it didn't support flash, but the fact is that flash videos can and do work!

Good Luck!

No, Flash videos do not work. If you are seeing a video on a website when browsing with your iPad it is because they website has correctly determined that you are using a non-Flash compatible device and it is serving the video in another format (like HTML5). So, the more correct response would be that some websites that use Flash content also supply that same media in other formats as well. If you are seeing a video on your iPad, unless you are using a special browser like Skyfire then you are not seeing Flash video.

This makes sense. A lot of sense, actually. Thanks!

Yeah it's prob a good thing not to have flash like stated a ZILLION times. It dose not necessarily hinder my experience with my iPad. All I will say is when android first gained the power to do flash I ABSOLUTELY LOVED IT. Yeah bat dies faster, just like when you play a game heavy on iPad ie. Infinity blade kills my bat. And my nexus one never overheated using flash maybe when it's charging and using flash I could see that. (sub 1ghz phones might def overheat) But once flash is there there is no corner of the Internet you can't go too. It's the full experience of the web. The reason i see flash NOT being a big problem on iPad because there are many of other ways to get media on there apps/formatting and putting it on there yourself.

I would love flash on there natively but for now sky fire does all the heavy lifting that it can do for those flash hungry people. Or use a full fledge desktop/laptop if needed.

Just kill me. Kill me now.. Beat me to death with one of these over priced (and/or) under spec'ed "wonder" andriod devices which can play flash (unless you buy a motorola zoom in which case you'll need get your 3G subscription before you can use even your OWN wifi if BestBuy is to be believed) and If it doesn't fall to bits first.

Originally Posted by Prasius

Just kill me. Kill me now.. Beat me to death with one of these over priced (and/or) under spec'ed "wonder" andriod devices which can play flash (unless you buy a motorola zoom in which case you'll need get your 3G subscription before you can use even your OWN wifi if BestBuy is to be believed) and If it doesn't fall to bits first.

The Xoom is expensive, but it was expected to be expensive from the beginning. Anyone who speculated a cheaper price was dreaming. Its specifications are MUCH better than the comparable $720 iPad in every way. Besides, you are basing your entire opinion of the newest generation of Honeycomb tablets on the price of the first one to market?

Oh and that policy about getting a 3G data plan to activate Wi-Fi, yes I agree it's stupid, it's just a way that the cell phone company can get a little money out of the deal as well. But you only have to pay one month and then never again. I don't think that policy will hold up though for long.

Fall to bits? Even the cheapest China made knockoff tablets don't simply fall to bits.

Give it a couple months, let the companies who aren't tied to cell phone providers release their tablets, they will be cheaper. Also the Wi - Fi only Xoom should be coming along soon anyways.